Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 5 No 11 Editor: Pat Weeks November 1998

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690


Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, CA, situated between Medical Center Dr and Hillcrest Drive. Visitors are welcome. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year. Since the year is coming to an end, membership at this time is reduced to $10 until 1999.

7 November 1998 SOCCGS will present a seminar to be held in the Community Room at the Mission Viejo City Library, from 10:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., open to the public, with a request for a donation to attend. Judith Swan is our main speaker and will talk about military records in genealogical research. Following the main speaker will be short presentations by SOCCGS members concerning beginning genealogy, computers, health records, an overview of this library and others in the area, the National Archives and use of the censuses, hereditary societies, picture presentation, French Canadian research overview. One of our main goals is to attempt to present one-on-one help for any beginners needing guidance or for others needing help in any selective areas of research. These services will be available the last hour of the seminar. We are expecting to have a good time, and hope to see many members attend also. Remember,if you cannot attend, you can still make a donation to help offset the cost of the seminar.

21 November 1998 Harry G. Drewry returns to offer his expertise on "Maps Can Help You Climb Your Family Tree" We will also hold election of upcoming Board of Directors for the coming year of 1999.

19 December 1998 Our Annual Christmas meeting with installation of officers for the upcoming year will be held on this date. We would appreciate any member volunteering to bring cookies and snacks, please contact Janet if you can help us out. We will again try to provide door prizes from the Board Members.

16 January 1999 Our first meeting of this upcoming year will feature Dr Willard Blankenship who will discuss medieval records. Dr Blankenship is President of the South Coast Chapter of the Sons of the American Revolution.


14November 1998 German Gen. Society of America will host an all day seminar at Scripps College, Claremont, featuring Carl Boyer, whose topic is "German Ancestors of Famous Americans" and Gary Shumway whose topis is "Oral History Techniques". To pre-register (fee of $24) contact W. Weber, 3827 Legion Lane, Los Angeles CA 90039 or call the GGSA Library (909)593-0505 or Bill Toeppe at (714)998-4811

27 February 1999 The Annual Whittier Area Genealogical Society Seminar will be held on this date. Guest speaker is John Philip Colletta addressing "Emigration/Immigration". More information to follow.


The Whittier Area Genealogical Society informs all that their new meeting location is now at the Masonic Lodge, 12001 Beverly Blvd., Whittier. It is one mile East of the 605 Freeway (Beverly East Exit), between Citrus and Magnolia Streets. Further location clues are "Under the pine trees - just west of the curve". They also advise you to use caution entering and exiting these driveways.

FOR 1999

The slate of officers for 1999 are as follows:
President: Judy Deeter
Vice President Rich Faber
Secretary Jeanne Barrett
Treasurer Ruby White
Corr Secretary Janet Franks
Voting will take place at the November meeting. Others may be nominated to be considered for a Board position. before voting takes place.


There will be no Safari outings during the months of November and December, due to those inconvenient little "gotta do-s" like the holidays. But the outings will commence in January with a planned trip to the San Diego Genealogical Society Library. Please advise Janet or Shirley if you will be attending that safari so they can alert SDGS as to the number to be expected. Remember, the group leaves at 9:30 a.m. prompt, from the parking lot of the Institute Building where our monthly meetings are held. Bring a sack lunch and plan for an all day excursion.

And, just in case this editor gets lucky and gets the newsletter out early, the safari of October 28th will be to the Orange Family History Center.


From "Dear Abby", Dennis Grafflin, Professor of History, Bates College, Lewiston Maine wrote "There is a genuine tragedy awaiting "Wondering Mom", and anyone else who thinks that storing precious family information on a computer disk is the perfect high-tech solution to the problem of combining preservation and privacy.

By the time her 2 year old daughter is old enough to care about her grandfather's autobiography, no one outside a couple of computer museums will be able to retrieve it from the disk - if she's incredibly lucky. I've been using computers for 20 years and have multiple generations of disks gathering dust now that, for all practical purposes, are unreadable. The hardware changes, the soft ware changes, Beware!

If "Wondering Mom" wants to save that document she should print it out now, giving thought to the printer and print cartridge, on 100% cotton or linen rag buffered paper with a neutral pH, and store it in a nondestructive archival folder in a dark, safe place, like a safety deposit vault. Abby, you should have told her to use the silly disk for a coaster (after printing a file). That way it would be good for something." (LA. Times, 9-23-98)


Our guest at the last meeting is selling 20 by 30 by 2 ¼ inch acid free boxes for storage of large charts, pictures, etc., which many of us thought a handy item. Lynn Ledford of True Blue Kids can be reached at 858-0473 if you wish to order any more.


Put this on your shopping list now! Next month (December) treat yourself to a wonderful excursion to Rancho Santa Marguerita in the heart of Camp Pendleton. Each year the San Juan Capistrano Historical Society invites Dana Point Historical Society and San Clemente HS and all other interested persons to join them for a day tour of the Commanding Officer's home on Camp Pendleton. This adobe was first built by Pio Pico, then enlarged by John Forester, and was THE working rancho home of this region for many years. Just the trip through Camp Pendleton is worth the cost of the tour. It is truly a trip back to early Spanish California. After the docent tour of the Commander's residence, the group will travel on for lunch. If you are into the history of this area, things cannot get any better than this tour! Mark your calendar, December 8th, and call 493-8444 to make reservations.


Around ten years ago I attended a Mexican funeral at the famous old San Fernando Cathedral in San Antonio Texas. The priest offered the following story:

"We have a tradition in Mexico that each person dies three times. First, there is a moment in which the body stops functioning. Second, there is the time that the remains are consigned to the grave. Third, there is that moment, sometime in the future, in which the person's name is spoken for the last time. Then the person is really gone."

Several years later, I got into genealogy and realized that persons who preserve the memories of persons from their own familial past, are preventing that third death. (permission to reprint from Ted Klein, Lake Travis TX.. Thank you Ted.)

BY Madlyn Jamison

"I want a divorce!"
He/she then said:
Dead ancestors fill dressers,
And lie under our beds.
They're stuffed into closets,
And piled everywhere.
A creature can't move
Or find a free chair! Forms, pedigrees, Photos, relics and books
Cover floors and the
Furniture wherever you look!
You've got to stop going
On researching jags.
I'm up to my ears with
Your boxes and bags!
But you keep on collecting
More genealogical stuff!
Then there are nights
When you don't come to bed,
Cause your'd rather be doing
Your ancestry instead!
Since this hobby of yours
Has come on the scene,
I've not had a spouse
Nor a house that is clean!
Listen well, my darling -
Take heed my dearest--
Give up this obsession
Or I shall depart
And leave you for good
With your SMITHS and your TARTS
Oh?? You'll need a computer,
Copier and printer too?
To work up MY pedigree
Before I depart?
Sheesh! My love,
You're really all heart!"
(originally seen on GenHumor-L)

New Additions to the Library
As of 15 October 1998

Cincinnati, The Queen City, by Daniel Hurley

New England, A Select List of National Archives Microfilm Publications

Federal Population Censuses 1790-1890 (duplicate copy)

Where to Write for Vital Records, by US Dept of Health

Sources & Repositories, By Gencor, Inc.

Huntington School (Suffolk Co., NY) Census, 1827 - 1863, Vol 1 & 2

Sheldon Family Association, Inc. Quarterly Vols 3 - 14

Every name Index to Pike Co IL History,
By Mary Lister Maubach

By Connie Wilson

Quakers Migration to the Upper Ohio
By Connie Wilson

The Old Families of Salisbury and Amesbury MA, by David Hoyt

Marriage Notices, 1785-1794 for the WholeUS, copies from the MA Centinel, by Charles Knowles Bolton

Families of Early Guilford CT
By Alvan Talcott

Every Name Index to the Jess M. Thompson

Pike Co History, by Mary Lister Maubach

Page One, The Front Page of History of WWII as presented in the New York Times

My Life's Journey
By Walter Rozak

A History of Edwards Co TX by
Rocksprings Womens Club

Indians of the US
By Clark Wissler

The Neon 1950, Youngstown College, Youngstown OH

Interpreting Mispelled Mispelled Misspelled German Place Names,
By Ernest Thode

The 1920 Federal Population Census Catalog, a Supplement to the AGLL Catalog Vol 1, AGLL

Virginians and West Virginians 1607-1870 Vol 3, in two volumes, A & B, by Patrick G. Wardell

Kentucky Colonization in Texas, A History of the Peters colony
By Seymour V. Connor.

Rhode Island in the Colonial Ward,
By Howard M Chapin

The Georgia Land Lottery Papers, 1805 - 1914, by Robert S. Davis Jr., & Rev . Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr.

The New England Quarterly, Vol 71 #3 1998

Hidden Valley Journal CA Vol 20, Annual Edition 1996

The Record, vol 4 #5 May 1998

Genealogy Bulletin #46, July/Aug 1998

Heritage Quest Cumulative Index for Issues 1 through 66

Genealogical Data from NY Post-Boy, 1743 To 1774, by Kenneth Scott

Contributions to Early History of Perth-Amboy & Adjoining Country By William Whitehead

The Annals of Newtown in Queens Co. NY By James Riker, Jr.

At the Bend in the River, the Story of Evansville IN, By Kenneth P McCutchan


1. Marriage Records of Accomack Co VA 1776-1854
2. Inhabitants of NY, 1774-1776
3. Missouri Genealogical Gleanings 1840 and Beyond, Vol 3
4. PA. Families, Genealogies from the Pennsylvania Gen. Magazine, Vol 1 & 2
5. Deaths Recorded in St Paul Directories, 1888-1910
6. Index of Probate Court Records, 1854-1917 of King Co WA.
7. Bermuda Settlers of the 17th Century
8. Duke of York Record, 1646-1679, Original Land Titles in Delaware
9. Wisconsin's Early French Habitants
10. Vital Records of York, MA. Prior to 1892

The following envelopes will be circulated for the 50/50 program

1. Ohio Settlers, Early. Purchasers of Land in Southwestern Ohio 1800-1840 $16.75
2. Mason County WV Marriages, 1806-1915, $14.15
3. Guide to Historical Records of Oklahoma, Revised Ed., $12.00
4. South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution, $26.75
5. Early Records of Georgia, Wilkes Co., Two volumes, $36.75
6. Washington Co MN Miscellaneous Death Listings, 1871-1930 $10.50
7. Prairie Pioneers of Illinois, Pioneers born in IL prior to 1880 Two volumes $23.00
8. Abstracts of Obituaries in the Western Christian Advocate 1834-1850 $11.50
9. Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, Original & Recorded Wills, 1663-1760 $11.00
10. Rev. Soldiers Buried in Indiana. (They are not listed in the Roster of Soldiers & Patriots Of American Revolution buried in Indiana). $5.75

OOPS - Almost forgot to thank the following for their generous contributions of books this month: Judy Deeter; Janet Franks; Sharon Robison; Roberta Kloos; Jeri Bailey; L. W. Keith; Ruth Rudko; Shirley Lynn; Bernard Keen; Dianne Kadletz,;Pat Weeks; and that wonderful person who brought in all the binder materials


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