Saddleback Valley Trails

Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 8 No 10 ...Editor: Gail Gilbert ...October 2001

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

 P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690

Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year for individuals, $25 for joint membership. SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.


Sunday evening, and I am sitting at my computer trying to get motivated in order to get this article written and to Gail by tomorrow morning's deadline. The most important news I have to share is that the SOCCGS Garage Sale, held yesterday, was a huge success. We made over $800!! A tidy sum for three days work. Besides, it was very much fun! Those joining in the fun were: Janet Franks, Ruby White, Jeanne Barrett, Iris Graham, Barbara Wilgus, Beverly Portlock, Gail Gilbert, Joe Barney, Bill Bluett, Herb Abrams and Bob McQueen. I hope I didn't forget anyone. Many members donated saleable items so we had something for all of the shoppers. Thanks to all who participated in any way!

We have had many complimentary responses to the September meeting. Our membership participation program seemed to be a great success. Thank you to Hall Simons, Tom Hruska and Fred Roberts for their interesting and informative programs. Another member, Leon Smith, will give a short presentation at the October meeting. I plan for this to be an ongoing part of future meetings. Please think about sharing your genealogy experiences with us.

Nearly forty members have turned in their surnames for the SOCCGS Surname Registry. We will wait another month before printing the first copy so please take a few minutes to send in your list. Surnames, dates and places of research should be included along with your name and phone number. These can be sent to me via snail or email.

Don't forget our Family History Days at the library October 23 and 27. We will have displays and helpful items for those just starting or currently working on their genealogy. Members will be in attendance to assist and/or answer questions. Bring or tell a friend!

Mary Jo McQueen


20 October 2001 Nancy Giles will be our October speaker and her topic will be "Newspaper Research." Nancy has been involved in genealogy for the past 15 years and is currently serving as President of the Pomona Valley Genealogical Society. She is a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists, a member and past regional director for the California State Genealogical Alliance, and is now serving as a California co-chairman for the FGS/CSGA conference to be held in Ontario, CA in August 2002. She has worked as an Archivist for the Whittier Historical Society Musem, and has done data entry for the Ohio Gen. Society, the St. Clair Co., IL Gen. Society and for the WAGS publication of an index of the Whittier newspapers from 1887-1930. In addition, she is a member of the Whittier Genealogical Society and conducts beginner classes for their members as well as for the Ontario Recreation Department and the seniors in the commuity where she resides. She contributes monthly to the WAGS newsletter, and we have reprinted some of her articles with her permission in our own newsletter. In April she was honored during Library Volunteer Week for her many hours of volunteer work which include doing data extractions and computer input from the microfilmed copies of the local newspapers on file at the Ontario Public Library. As we can see, newspaper research is Nancy's specialty, and we look forward to learning all about it at our October meeting.


October is national "Family History Month." We will be celebrating by holding two Family History Days at the Library, Tues. Oct. 23rd and Sat. Oct. 27th. This is an excellent time for members and non-members to get acquainted with our genealogy library. There will be extra people on hand to show you around and help with your research questions. If you would like to be one of those extra docents, please don't hesitate to call our librarian, Janet Franks at (949) 496-8428.


We are hearing rave reports from people who have used the 1880 Census CDs which we have available for your use at our library. These 56 discs were prepared by the Family and Church History Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and were nearly 20 years in the making. Do stop by the library and see how much help they can be to you.


The October SAFARI will be to the Santa Monica Family History Center. November we will visit the Cole Library in Carlsbad. Call Janet Franks for details.


Bernice Brenner, who lives in Leisure World, is in need of a ride to our meetings. Anyone who is in that area and can help, please contact her at (949) 470-0164.

Without genealogy, the study of history is lifeless. . . . John Fiske



20 October 2001 The North San Diego County Genealogical Society (NSDCGS) has scheduled their Annual Fall Seminar from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Saturday at the Dove Library, 1175 Dove Lane, Carlsbad. Registration is at 8:30 and the cost of this event will be $20, with lunch available from TOGO's for an additional $6. Arlene Eakle will present the program which will include workshops on: Tracing Ancestors who lived in Cities; How to find Birth, Marriage and Death dates prior to 1900; Pre-1820 Census Records; and Special Chronological Indices and Lists Tracing the Ladies on your Pedigree. For information, contact Dorothy Miller, (760) 630-5720 or email <>.

27-28 October 2001 The National Genealogical Society (NGS) Regional Conference, hosted by the California Genealogical Society, will be held at the Crown Plaza, San Francisco, Mid Peninsula, 1221 Cheess Dr., Foster City, CA. The featured speakers will be Cyndi Howells of Cyndi's List and Curt Witcher, MLS, FUGA, of the Allen County Library. Information available at: or or call (800) 473-0060.

27 October 2001 The Glendale California Immigrant Genealogical Society will hold it's Fall Seminar, "Which Way to Amerika," German Genealogy Day 2001, at the 1st Methodist Church, 134 N. Kenwood, 8:30-4:30. For details call Barbara (818) 353-2341.

10 November 2001 Remember to save this date when our own Judy Deeter will be making a presentation " Stories From Beyond the Stucco Walls," based on the background of Mission Viejo architecture. Watch for further details on this in next month's newsletter.

17 November 2001 A Special Program on "The Molecular Genealogy Research Project of Brigham Young University" will be presented from 10 am to 2 pm at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, 1981 Chestnut Avenue, Carlsbad, CA. Sponsored by the North SanDiego Co. Genealogical Society and the Church of LDS, this program will also offer the opportunity to participate in this DNA project by submitting a blood sample and a 4 generation pedigree chart. The presentation will be at 10 am and the blood drawing will run from 11:15 to 2 pm. This is a unique opportunity to learn about this new field of genetic genealogy and one which I don't think we will want to miss.

7-10 August 2002 It's not too soon to plan on attending the 2002 Federation of Genealogical Societies Conference to be hosted next summer by the CA State Genealogical Alliance at the Ontario Convention Center. The conference will celebratethe ethinic diversity of this country since its founding, and lectures and activities will emphasize all the many cultures in our society today and how they influence the work of today's genealogists. Our October speaker, Nancy Giles, is a co-chairman for this event and can perhaps tell us more about what is planned at our October meeting. Otherwise, details will be posted on the FGS Website at You can also write FGS, PO Box 200940, Austin, TX 78720-0940.


1. Continuous classes are offered at the Mission Viejo Family History Center at 27976 Marguerite Parkway. To register call (949) 364-2742.

2. For information on classes held at the Orange FHC, 674 S. Yorba St., Orange, call Beth McCarty at (714) 998-3408.

3. Classes for beginners and intermediates in Computer-assisted Genealogy are offered each month by the Orange County CA Genealogy Society in the General Meeting Room of the Huntington Beach Central Library, 7111 Talbert Ave., Huntington Beach, CA for a fee of $4 for non-members, payable at the door. See for schedule.

4. The Fall schedule for NARA workshops follows. To register call (949) 360-2641.

Oct 2 Tues 9:30 a.m. Naturalization & Immigration Records

Oct 6 Sat 9:30 a.m. Preparing for the 1930 Census

Oct 17 Wed 9:30 a.m. Genealogical Resources on the Internet

Oct 24 Wed 9:30 a.m. Preparing for the 1930 Census

Nov 3 Sat 9:30 a.m. Preparing for the 1930 Census

Nov 8 Thurs 9:30 a.m. Naturalization & Immigration Records

5. The British Isles Family History Society (BIFHS) holds classes monthly at the LA FHC of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd., W. LA. Classes and parking are free. For information contact Dorothy Losee at (310) 838-6085,

6. Classes are offered monthly by the LA Family History Center, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd. Los Angeles which offer a wide variety of topics, ranging from Beginning Genealogy to more specialized research of ethnic groups such as Cherokee Genealogy, African American Genealogy and even deciphering the old-style Script of German and records. To see the schedule for the current month, go to their website at or call (310) 474-9990.

7. Brigham Young University's Department of Independent Studies offers two free online genealogy courses, Finding Your Ancestors and Providing Temple Ordinances for Your Ancestors. See for details.

8. Community College genealogy courses, such as the one being conducted currently by our society member Doug Mason at Orange Coast College, can be found listed at the website: Many of these are also free online.


If you hadn't noticed, and have launched a new message board which combines their message boards, along with that of, into one big message board database that will be the largest colletion of messages on the Internet. This means you don't have to post your messages at multiple sites. And access will remain FREE.


Death records are one of the three cornerstones of genealogical research. Along with birth and marriage records, they help create the outline of a family's relationships to each other. They are often also the records that are easiest to obtain for documentation of your family. But what if there is no death certificate available for an ancestor you're seeking? Or what if you want an extra sense of history and context in which to place him or her?

Getting Started with Cemetery Records. There are several ways to find out where your ancestor is buried. If you don't know the name of the cemetery in which your ancestor was buried, look in obituaries, wills, and on death certificates - they often list burial information or the name of a funeral home that you can contact. Make sure that you also ask other family members if they are aware of any family plots. Also check the records of the church that your ancestor attended. Their records may have the name of the cemetery.

If you don't know the location of the cemetery, you can find it in several ways. First look in telephone books for the area, or ask at the local courthouse, library, genealogical society, or even local churches. Second, look at U.S. Government Geological Survey maps of the area, available in larger libraries and often in sporting goods stores. These maps show all of the roads, houses, and even the small graveyards. Finally, check your local public and genealogy libraries for the AMERICAN BLUE BOOK OF FUNERAL DIRECTORS, published in New York by the National Funeral Directors Association. It lists cemeteries by location. If your ancestor is buried in the cemetery and you plan to visit the grave site, you should also find out when the cemetery office is open so that you can stop in and find out exactly where the plot is. This will save you the trouble of having to search the entire cemetery for your ancestor.

Other Sources of Cemetery Records. You may not actually need to visit a cemetery in order to look at cemetery records and gravestones. Many of these records have been transcribed and are available in the archives of various organizations and societies. Another new development in cemetery records research is the creation of online transcription archives. Some contain electronic versions of transcribed inscriptions, and some, like Virtual Cemetery, <>, also provide a photo of the gravestone and contact information for the person who submitted it. Many people use computerized cemetery records indexes to help them find the record that they need. Some libraries also have computerized cemetery records indexes.

Do keep in mind that it's best to try and verify any gravestone or cemetery information you find through these types of sources - there is always the possibillity of error in a transcription you find as a secondary source. Plus, it is often a moment of real connection when you finally do find the gravesite of a long-sought ancestor; that sense of family place is well worth the trouble.

If you find you enjoy this type of research, you may want to consider contributing to the Virtual Cemetery or to the USGENWEB Tombstone Transcription Project at <>. Those who follow you in the hobby will surely be glad you did.

Written by Carol Gunby, Previously published by, Inc., RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Genealogy News, Vol. 3, No. 8, 23 February 2000. RootsWeb:;.


Remember, tombstones are considered to be "secondary sources" for genealogical data. Some of the reasons why they are not primary sources are that 1) They may not have been placed at the time of death; 2) Names on the stones may be incorrect or a nickname; 3) Dates may not be accurate; 3) The stone may not actually mark the place of burial; 4) Information from the stone may have been transcribed incorrectly; 5) You don't really know who ordered the stone. These pointers came from an article by George G. Morgan which appeared in Ancestry Daily News on 10/27/2000 at


Submitted by Jeanne Barrett, author unknown

Your tombstone stands among the rest
Neglected and alone
The name and date are chiseled out
On polished marble stone
It reaches out to all who care
It is too late to mourn

You did not know that I exist
You died and I was born
Yet each of us are cells of you
In flesh and blood and bone
Our blood contracts and beats a pulse
Entirely not our own

Dear Ancestor. . the place you tilled
One hundred years ago
Spreads out among the ones you left
Who would have loved you so
I wonder how you lived and loved
I wonder if you knew
That someday I would find this spot
And come to visit you.


Before you plan a research trip to Salt Lake City, you should consider that the Winter Olympics will be in progress there from February 8 through February 24, 2002. In addition, the Winter Special Olympics will be held there immediately following. This means that accomodations may be difficult to get until the end of March. In preparation for a possible increased demand on the library facilities, a remodeling has been in progress since early July which has been disruptive of some library services. This was to be completed in early fall, but it might be a good idea to check on the status at their website at:


CSGA has posted in their September newsletter a website that provides a list of sites that give misleading or inaccurate genealogical information, i.e. scams, frauds and hoaxes. Check them out at:


The Southern CA Gen. Soc. will hold its annual writing contest, entries due no later than October 15, 2001. If you are interested in submitting something you have written within the past 5 years, details are available by calling (818) 843-7247 or by e-mailing

Incidentally, the Family Research Library of SCGA was featured as the Library of the month by CSGA. It is considered to be one of the largest non-govenmental, non-church-supported genealogical collections in the country, and houses 35,000 volumes of manuscripts, books, maps, microforms and periodicals. Watch for our next Safari there.


Amanuensis - Secretary or stenographer

Artificer - A soldier mechanic who does repairs

Boniface - Keeper of an inn

Brightsmith - Metal worker

Chandler - Dealer or trader

Cooper - Maker of vessels made of staves & hoops likecasks, barrels, tubs

Cordwainer - Shoemaker, or a leather worker using leather from Cordova, Spain

Crocker - Potter

Draper - A dealer in dry goods

Duffer - Peddler

Farrier - Blacksmith, one who shoes horses

Fuller - One who fulls cloth, shrinks and thickens wool, cleans & finishes cloth

Glazier - A window glassman

Hacker - Maker of hoes

Higgler - Itinerant peddler

Hillier - Roof tiler

Jagger - Fish peddler

Joyner/Joiner - A skilled carpenter

Lederer - leather maker

Malender - Farmer

Monger - Seller of goods

Puddler - Wrought iron worker

Shrieve - Sheriff

Tapley - One who puts the tap in an ale cask

Tide waiter - Customs inspector

Wainwright - Wagon maker

Yeoman - Farmer who owns his own land

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

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