Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 5 No 9 Editor: Pat Weeks September 1998

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690


Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo CA, situated between Medical Center and Hillcrest Drives. Visitors are welcome. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year.

19 September 1998 This month's speaker will be Dee Semons, who returns to talk with us about Germanic and Pennsylvania Dutch research.

17 October 1998 Guest speaker this month is SOCCGS member, Sharon Robison, who will present the topic: "Genealogy and Family Health history". Nominations for 1999 Board of Directors will be held at this meeting.

21 November 1998 Harry G. Drewry returns to offer his expertise on "Maps Can Help You Climb Your Family Tree".We will also hold election of the upcoming Board of Directors for the year 1999.

19 December 1998 will be our annual Christmas meeting and installation of officers for the upcoming year of 1999.


12 September 1998 The Gen. Society of Hispanic America lecture "How to Access Texas Records" will be given by Norma Flores at the Santa Fe Springs Library, 11700 E. Telegraph Road. For further information call (310)868-7738

18 - 19 September 1998 The San Diego Genealogical Society will hold their annual fair with speakers, vendors and information. Friday 12:00 noon to 9 p.m. and Saturday 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Donation of $7 per day. To be held at the Scottish Rite Center, 1895 Camino del Rio south, in Mission Valley, San Diego. For more information, call (619)588-0065 or contact them via

10 October 1998 German Genealogy Day, sponsored by the Immigrant Genealogy society will feature Marion Wolfert, co-compiler of the Bremen Passenger List indexes will discuss German research. 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Contact (818)353-2341 or (818)896-9685

27 February 1999 The annual Whittier Area Gen Society Seminar will be held on this date and guest speaker will be John Philip Colletta, addressing "Emigration/Immigration"

SOCCGS This and That

Iris Graham reports that we now have 234 active members in our organization. Kathleen Ferguson Kane, our guest speaker last month, drew sixteen visitors to our meeting to hear her presentation of Scottish research techniques.

President Janet Franks also informed us that the agreement between the Mission Viejo Library and our society is close to closure. When both parties have agreed on terms of our presence in the Library, the agreement will be presented to the members to vote on.


The Family History Center has informed us that they will again be offering two classes in October. One class covers Beginning Genealogy; the other covers Computers and the Net. You may call 364-2742 to sign up for these classes. In September the regular hours will resume as follows:
T, W, Th and F 9:30 am to 4:30 pm
T, W, Th 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm
Saturday 9:30 am to 1:00 pm


One of our guests at the last meeting, Gordon McRay, shared with us a wonderful source he has had much experience with. This source, Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticae, is information of all Scottish Presbyterian ministers covering the years from 1560 to 1926. It includes a brief history of the person, his birth, death, date of confirmation, name of spouse, schooling, children's names, etc, etc. This is a ten volume set of fiche, 74 fiche to each volume, and is housed permanently at the Orange Family History Center

CONFEDERATE INFORMATION From WAGS newsletter, August 1998

The California Division, United Daughters of the Confederacy was organized in 1901 and as we approach our centennial year, we are compiling a memorial list of all known Confederates buried in California. If your ancestor is buried in California, we would like to have the name and locations of the cemetery where he/she is buried and if possible an obituary, photograph, service record, and any family information you would like to share. If you have done a survey of a California cemetery and have a list of Confederates, we ask that you please share that information with us. United Daughters of the Confederacy, California Division, c/o Margaret Ally, P. O. Box 33295, Montebello, CA 90640-3295 . Do not send original documents as they cannot be returned.


Imagine there is a bank that credits your account each morning with $86,400. It carries over no balance from day to day. Every evening it deletes whatever part of the balance you failed to use during the day. What would you do? Draw out every cent , of course!!!!

Each of us has such a bank. It's name is TIME. Every morning it credits you with 86,400 seconds. Every night it writes off, as lost, whatever of this you have failed to invest to good purpose. It carries over no balance. It allows no overdraft. Each day it opens a new account for you. Each night it burns the remains of the day. It you fail to use the day's deposits, the loss is yours.

There is no going back. There is no drawing against the "tomorrow". You must live in the present on today's deposits. Invest it so as to get from it the utmost in health, happiness and success! The clock is running, so make the most of today. (Received from a friend, who received it from another friend.)

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to use the net and he won't bother you for weeks.


"Some news media publicity suggests that regional archives may be closed, and material concentrated at some massive single national archive. If so, we Family History writers would be greatly inconvenienced in our search for lost family history. It is difficult enough to go to the several regional centers. Existing Regional Centers need more money to keep records up to date. Records Consolidation is no more the answer than Arbitrary Downsizing. "

I sent the above short e-mail on July 18th to Rep. Ron Packard and to the NARA Space Planning Committee ( and received a sympathetic reply from Rep. Packard.

Read for the plan.

To locate your Rep's e-mail address , use and enter your Zip Code

Dana Rohrabacher Huntington Beach
Loretta Sanchez Garden Grove
Christopher Cox Newport Beach
Ron Packard Oceanside , San Clemente

This was one Groups views:

It appears the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is planning to close most of the 13 branch archives in the name of lower operating costs and "increased efficiency." These are reasons for space planning:
1. Lack of adequate space to store records.
2. Costs of space are consuming NARA's budget.
3. Lack of space that meets appropriate environmental conditions for records storage and preservation.
4. A need to provide easy access to records.

The content of these meetings, if the one held in Fort Worth, Texas on June 10th is typical, has been vague and noncommitta. The NARA speakers noted that the records storage requirements have increased by more than one-third in the past decade. These speakers emphasized the importance of efficiency, and little was said about accessibility, other than an intent to "digitize" records and make them available on the Internet.

The intent to "digitize" records sounds good, until one considers that NARA is already 30 years behind in microfilming records. In the last year, the contractor hired by NARA to "digitize" records has only "digitized" 60,000 "items. In addition, it would be extremely difficult to "digitize" written records. Transcribed records are always questionable to serious genealogists and historians. Although NARA officials deny that there is a "formal plan" at this time, it appears that their intent is to close most of the NARA Branch facilities, and concentrate all records in two or three "mega-centers.". If this was a good concept, then the libraries in all of the cities, colleges and universities in the Southwest could also be consolidated in a remote location in the name of greater efficiency.

NARA has already moved records from the New York/New Jersey area, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Island from the Federal Records Center in Bayonne, New Jersey, to Lee's Summit, Jackson County, Missouri.

NARA's comments on the current lack of space, lack of equipment, and need forbetter environmental conditions for archival storage certainly appear valid. For example, the SW Branch in Fort Worth also lacks adequate space for the reading room, and a lack of serviceable readers, to say nothing about the lack of space for more than two volunteers. Although building 1 at the SW Branch has solid brick walls and a concrete roof, parts of the building used for record storage are not air conditioned. Buildings 2, 3 and 4 appear to have no air conditioning. Exhaust fans blow hot humid air into the building and out open warehouse doors. These conditions could be corrected by building modernization. BUT NARA HAS REDUCED ITS REQUEST FOR OPERATING FUNDS BY 40% THIS YEAR. If NARA wanted to improve the storage conditions, they should have requested at least 100% plus 3% for growth, plus another factor for catching up with the microfilming backlog.

We believe that accessibility should be the first priority, not "efficiency" or the lowest possible cost of operation. We also believe that the larger and more remote the center, the less the center is responsive to the public in a timely manner. But NARA's Space Planning Team is made up on only NARA officials, with no representatives from the public. We believe that the NARA customers should also be members of this team.

If the concept of closing the NARA Branches and concentrating all records in two or three mega-centers in the search for greater efficiency is of concern to you, we urge you to write your Members of Congress. (From a post to the Scotch-Irish mailing list by David L. White

Contributed by SOCCGS Member Eugene Cramer


In case you ever wondered why a large number of your ancestors disappeared during a certain period in history, this might help. Epidemics have always had a great influence on people and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. Some of the major epidemics in the US are listed below.

1657 Boston: Measles
1687 Boston: Measles
1690 New York: Yellow Fever
1713 Boston: Measles
1729 Boston: Measles
1732-33 Worldwide: Influenza
1738: South Carolina: Smallpox
1739-40 Boston: Measles
1747 Conn., NY, PA & SC: Measles
1759 North America (areas inhabited by white people): Measles
1761 North American & West Indies: Influenza
1772 North America: Measles
1775 North America (especially hard in New England) Epidemic (unknown)
1775-75 Worldwide: Influenza (one of the worst flu epidemics)
1788 Philadelphia & NY: Measles
1793 Vermont: Influenza and a "putrid fever"
1793 Virginia: Influenza (killed 500 people in 5 counties in 4 weeks)
1793 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever
1793 Delaware (Dover) "extremely fatal" bilious disorder
1793 Pennsylvania (Harrisburg & Middletown) many unexplained deaths
1794 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever
1796-97 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever
1798 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever
1803 New York: Yellow Fever
1820-23: Nationwide: "fever" (started on Schuylkill River, PA and spread)
1831-32 Nationwide: Asiatic Cholera (brought by English emigrants)
1832 New York & other major cities: Cholera
1837 Philadelphia: Typhus
1841 Nationwide: Yellow Fever
1847 New Orleans: Yellow Fever
1847-48 Worldwide: Influenza
1848-49 North America: Cholera
1850 Nationwide: Yellow Fever
1850-51 North America: Influenza
1851 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (New Orleans, 8,000 die in summer)
1855 Nationwide: Yellow Fever
1857-59 Worldwide: Influenza
1860-61 Pennsylvania: Smallpox
1865-73 Philadelphia, NY, Boston, New Orleans, Baltimore, Memphis & Washington DC. A series of recurring epidemics of Smallpox, Cholera, Typhus, Typhoid, Scarlet Fever & Yellow Fever
1873-75 North America & Europe: Influenza
1878 New Orleans: Yellow Fever (last great epidemic of disease).
1885 Plymouth, PA: Typhoid
1886 Jacksonville, FL: Yellow Fever
1918 Worldwide: Influenza (high point year) More people hospitalized in World War I from Influenza than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps - with 80% death rate in some camps. Finally these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: 1833 Columbus OH; 1834 New York City; 1849 New York; 1851 Coles Co IL; 1851 The Great Plains; 1851 Missouri.
(Sept 1997 Nwsletter, Gen Soc of Santa Cruz Co., source: Ancestors West, SSBCGS, Vol 20 No 1, Fall 1993, South Bend IN Area GS, via Desert Diggins, Hi-Desert Gen Soc July 1998)


1. Victorian Ordnance Survey Map of Scotland; Glasgow & Greenock, Airdrie & Linlithgow, Loch Lomond and Stirling, Caldonia Books
2. Descendants of John Minor, by W. Avery Minor
3. Complete Book of Emigrants 1607-1660, by Peter Wilson Coldham
4. Complete book of Emigrants 1661-1699 by Peter Wilson Coldham, 2nd copy
5. Genealogy Success Stories by California Genealogy Society
6. Redwood Researcher, Vol 26, #4, May 1994, by Redwood Genealogy Society
7. Prospector, Vol 17 #1, 1995, by Antelope Valley Genealogy Society
8. State Research outlines by Family History Library
9. Notebook of Wills by Connie wilson
10. The Prairie Gleaner (MO) Vol 12 #1-4, Vol 13, Index 1982, Vol l14 #1-4, 1983 by West Central MO Gen. Society
11. Genealogical Notes or Contributions to the Family History of Some of the First Settlers of Connecticut and Massachusetts by Nathaniel Goodwin
12. Marriages & Deaths from New Yorker (Double Quarto Edition) 1836-1841, by Kenneth Scott
13. New England Ancestors by Marilyn Bailiff King & Mary Pierce Stegeman
14. Maryland Genealogies Excerpts from a Consolidation of Articles from the Maryland Historical Magazine, pp 91-95 & 432-437
15. Roots and Shoots Quarterly, Vol 12 #1-3, 1990 by Southern Ohio Genealogical Society
16 Notebook of Miscellaneous Quaker Information
17 Notebook of Assorted Hogan Family Quarterlies.
18 Apprentices of Connecticut 1637-1900, by Kathy A. Ritter
18 The Death of Hitler, by Ada Petrova
19 Can Do! The Story of the Seabees by William Bradford Huie
20 S. S. Sonder-Kommando Direlwanger, by French L. MacLean
21 History of Ventura county CA by Sol N. Sheridan, Vols 1 and 2
22 Ancestry of Tommy Frederick Dobsch by Tommy Frederick Dobsch
23 The Callaway Journal, Vol 23
24 Milam Roots, Vol 11, #3
25 Abraham Lincoln, The Prairie Years and the War Years, by Carl Sandburg
26 The Pilgrim Fathers of New England Genealogical Index, by William Bartlett
27 Heirlooms in the Making, by Florine Roper
28 Rowan County NC Register, Vol 12, #4. Nov 1997 index.

50/50 Update for August

Four envelopes have been filled and the following will be purchased:
1. Pennsylvania Vital Records (CD)
2. Ohio Vital Records #2, 1750s - 1880s
3. Early Planters of Scituate MA
4. Massachusetts and Main Families, 1650s - 1930s, (CD)

Current Envelopes in circulation:
1. Marriage Records of Accomack Co VA, 1776-1854, Recorded in Bonds, Licenses and Ministers' Returns
2. Inhabitants of New York, 1774 - 1776, by Thomas B. Wilson
3. Missouri Genealogical Gleanings1840 and Beyond, vol 3, by Sherida K. Eddlemon. We have Vol 1 and Vol 2
4. Pennsylvania Families, Genealogies from the Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine, Vol 1 and Vol 2. We have Vol 3
5. Deaths Recorded in St Paul Directories, 1888 - 1910
6. Index of Probate court Records 1854 - 1917 of King Co WA, includes Seattle area
7. Bermuda Settlers of the 17th Century by Julia E. Mercer
8. Duke of York Record, 1646-1679, Original Land Titles in Delaware
9. Wisconsin's Early French Habitants by Jo Bartels Alderson
10. Vital Records of York, Maine, prior to 1892 by Lester M. Bragdon.


Would you like to place a free newspaper query regarding your Central New York ancestors?

Sheila Byrnes writes a column in the Syracuse Herald American, and will include your query in her column.

She requests they be 30 words or less, typewritten or clearly printed, and with a Central or upstate New York connection.

Send them to her, c/o the paper, PO Box 4915, Syracuse, NY 13221 (Heritage Quest Genealogy Bulletin, July/!ug 1998)


Most American men were devoutly religious at the time of the American Revolution. FACT: While most colonists gave nominal adherence to Christian values in the late eighteenth century, some historians have estimated that no more than 15 percent of the men were church members.

Our ancestors usually moved, like Abraham, not knowing where they were going. FACT: In-depth study into the migratory habits of our ancestors shows that in most cases they had received many reports on an "ideal" location by which they were convinced they would better themselves by moving. Sometimes, they relied on reports from relatives or neighbors who had already moved, but often a member of a family would make a preliminary trip to check out the new territory. The move usually involved several families making the trip together.
(Linn Gen Society Newsletter, July 1998)


This was gleaned from the North San Diego Co Gen Society, June 1998, and was introduced with the preface "stop me if you've heard this one". Well, I hadn't. and had a good laugh, and hope you will also.

A man was crossing the road one day when a frog called out to him and said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess." He bent over, picked up the frog, and put it in his pocket.

The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me, and turn me back into a beautiful princess, I will tell everyone how smart and brave you are and how you are my hero." The man took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it, and returned it to his pocket.

The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess I will be your loving companion for an entire week." The man took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it, and returned it to his pocket.

The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess, I'll stay with you for a year and do anything you want. Again the man took the frog out, smiled at it, and put it back into his pocket.

Finally the frog asked, "What is the matter? I told you I'm a beautiful princess, that I would stay with you for a year and do anything you want. Why won't you kiss me?"

The man said, "Look, I'm a genealogist. I don't have time for a girl friend, but a talking frog is cool!"


These have been going around on the Net this past month. No one can cite the source, so I will have to put it out as Author Unknown.

In East Dalhousie Cemetery, Nova Scotia

Here lies
Ezekial aikle
Age 102
The Good Die Young

In a London England Cemetery

Here lies Ann Mann
Who lived an old maid
But died an old Mann
Dec. 8, 1767

In a Thurmont, Maryland, Cemetery

Here lies an Atheist
All dressed up
And no place to go.

Cynthia Daly Ryan, SOCCGS member

Hello, Fellow Roots-Searchers: I've been searching for my mother's family name-Hogan. Here is what happened to me.

I went to a 75th birthday party in Tucson which my friend (from Madison Wisconsin) gave and invited about eighty people. Among the guests were a Dr. Hogan and his wife from Madison. I introduced myself and Dr Hogan's wife said she had a book about the Hogans called "The Galloping Hogan" by an author named Matthew J. Culligan-Hogan.

I was intrigued because my great-grandfather's name was Matthew J. Hogan (I don't know yet where the Culligan name came from but that didn't stop me.) I found the out-of-print book through an interlibrary loan. The author, Matthew J. Culligan-Hogan's portrait (on the jacket of the book) had been painted by no other than Norman Rockwell, and Matthew looked very much like the Hogan men in my family.

Since starting the book I am having difficulty getting the laundry, bed making, cooking, et al done because the book is so well written and informative. The author is the former President of NBC Radio, Curtis Publishing Co. and the Mutual Broadcasting Co.

So far I have learned that the clan O'gan - O'Hogan - Hogan came to Ireland from Iberia (modern Spain/Portugal) about 500 B.C. and that they belonged to the Dalcassian tribe.

The author's grandfather, Domenic Hogan, lived in County Claire Ireland. He had eleven daughters. One daughter, Sarah Jane, was Matthew's mother. When Matthew was five years old he kept hearing about the Galloping Hogan (an ancestor and legendary Irish hero). Thirty years later the author went to Ireland to personally investigate the Clan Hogan and especially the Galloping Hogan.

The word Gallop (Wallop) was a measure of distance in ancient Gaelic and the greatest horseman of each generation earned this rarely given title. The story goes on and on....

I'm hoping from this beginning that I'll establish some relationship between my mother, Dorothy Ethelbert Hogan-Daly, and the author's mother, Sarah Jane Hogan (probably Hogan-Culligan).

If there are any Hogan researchers out there Cynthia can be reached at

And, Cynthia, check our latest MV library addition, Notebook of Associated Hogan Quarterlies.


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