Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 9 No 9 ...Editor: Gail Gilbert ...September 2002

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

 P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690

Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year for individuals, $25 for joint membership. SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.

A Message From Your President

The most important SOCCGS news this month are the plans for our November Seminar. You will find important registration information elsewhere in this newsletter. To see flyer click here. It is imperative for each member to send in your reservation in as soon as possible. There is limited seating for this event.

We are fortunate to be able to feature Hank Jones as our speaker for the day. I know we will all enjoy his informative and entertaining lectures. In addition, there are plans for interesting displays and information tables. Several patriotic organizations will be represented, ie: DAR, SAR, UDC, UNION VETERANS and others. Information needed to join these and other societies will be available to those interested.

Amy Taylor, Senior Consultant from Creative Memories, will have a Heritage Album Display with supplies for sale. She will feature a scrapbook-in-progress to inspire those of us planning, or thinking about creating, our own album .

SOCCGS will feature a "Book Sale". These are duplicates and other books we cannot use, or for which we don't have room. There will also be many genealogical periodicals for sale. Proceeds from this sale will go to our library book fund.

Door prizes will be awarded to lucky winners. A door prize ticket will be "given" to each attendee at the Seminar.

Beginning in September you will have an opportunity to purchase tickets for a Quilt Raffle. The drawing willbe held at the Seminar. There will be a photograph of the quilt at our September meeting and at the library soon. Tickets will be available for a donation of $1.00 each or 6 for $5.00. The completely finished quilt will be available for viewing at the October meeting. The border is going on today and then it goes to the quilter! You need not be present to win the quilt. Proceeds from the quilt raffle will benefit our library.

Many volunteers are needed to make this event successful. Several members signed up in August and there will be another opportunity to do so at the September meeting.

Don't forget our Garage Sale on September 14, 24001 Calle Estilo, Mission Viejo. Call Bunny and Leon Smith (472-8046) or Mary Jo (581-0690) to arrange for pickup of items you wish to donate. And please come by and say "hello"! Sale begins at 7:00 A.M.

'Til Next Month,

Mary Jo


21 Sept 2002 Our speaker for this meeting will be Everett B. Ireland, CGRS, from San Diego who will discuss "The Whys and Wherefores of the Non-Population Schedules of the United States Census". Mr. Ireland has been an active genealogist for over 13 years and has been a guest lecturer at FGS and GENTECH Conferences, as well as at genealogical seminars and societies in Southern CA and the Midwest. He is currently a member of the Board of Trustees of the Association of Professional Genealogists and the California State Genealogical Alliance. Mr. Ireland has a degree in Engineering Physics from U of Michigan and had a career as a government scientist. He has been a Certified Genealogical Research Specialist since 1993, specializing in Southern California and Midwest America genealogy.


14 Sept 2002 SOCCGS Garage Sale! This year our sale will be held at the "garage" of Bunny & Leon Smith at 24001 Calle Estilo, Mission Viejo and will begin at 7 a.m. on the 14th. Bring items you want to donate for sale to either Mary Jo McQueen's or Leon and Bunny Smith's homes or call Leon and Bunny (949) 472-8046 and they will be happy to pick them up for you..

2 Nov 2002 SOCCGS Seminar featuring Hank Jones. See enclosed flyer for information and reservation/registration form. To see flyer click here. Remember this seminar is being presented as a community service. The fee is nominal compared to other similar seminars and, considering the outstanding reputation of our speaker, this seminar will be one you won't want to miss.


28 Sept 2002 The British Isles Genealogical Research Association will sponsor a seminar "Routes to Our Roots" featuring Linda Jones. The topics will include: What's New in Emigration Records; The Canadian Connection; Migration Patterns; Getting Across the Pond; Colonial and Early American Records. The location will be at the Wesley United Methodist Parish Hall, 5380 El Cajon Blvd., San Diego, time 8:30 a.m. to 4 p.m., price $45 until Sept. 6 and $50 thereafter. For information & reservations, call Linda Huerta (619) 462-2883 or email her at <>

19 Oct 2002 The North San Diego County Genealogical Society will present a one day seminar featuring Barbara Renick, to be held at the Dove Library, 1175 Dove Lane, Carlsbad CA. Topics will include How Computers are Changing Genealogical Research; Better Internet Search Strategies; Discovering Cultural Diversity on the Internet; Disaster Avoidance for Genealogists with Computers. Cost will be $30 including lunch. For information contact Dorothy Miller at (760) 630-5720 or email <>.

9 Nov 2002 The Hemet-San Jacinto Genealogical Society will hold a seminar with Lloyd Bockstruck as the featured speaker. His topics will include: Identifying the Maiden Names of Females; Connecticut Research; Special Collection of Various Newspapers and the Draper Papers; Military and Pension Records. The location will be the First Presbyterian Church, 515 E. Kimball Ave., Hemet; price is $25.50 including lunch. Send check payable to H-FJGS to P.O. Box 2576, Hemet CA 92546. Information: (909) 658-1962.

3 Nov 2002 The Pommern Special Interest Group will meet on Sunday at 1 p.m. at the IGS Library, 1310 W. Magnolia, Burbank, CA. Jean Nepsund will provide an orientation to the immigrant Genealogical Society Library and Gwen Christensen will provide an overview of the common resources available at the library. This will be followed by a workshop on using the library resources for genealogical research.


We thank Betty Snyder for the following donations to our library:

National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Vol. 83, No. 3 & 4, 1995; Vol. 84, No. 1-4, 1996; Vol. 85, No.1-4, 1997; Vol. 86, No. 1-4, 1998; Vol. 87, No. 1-4, 1999; Vol. 88, No. 3 & 4, 2000; Vol. 89, No. 2, 3 & 4, 2001; Vol. 90, No. 1, 2002

Index to Genealogical Periodicals: Donald Lines Jacobus, revised by Carl Boyer

Westford Days, The Diaries of Emma, John W. and Ada Day, 1862-1878

The Families: Marilyn Day

Ancestor Charts of Members of the Ohio Genealogical Society, 1987

The Barton Book: Robert Dacus Nally for the Barton Historical Society

Panama Canal: William Friar , Graphic Arts Center Pub.

Digging for Genealogical Treasure in New England Town Records, Ann Smith Lainhart- NEHGS

Surname Index to Sixty-Five Volumes of Colonial and Revolutionary Pedigrees, George Rodney Crowther, III, National Genealogical Society

Greene County, Ohio Births Prior to 1869, Arthur R. Kilner, Heritage Books

Ohio Wills and Estates to 1850, An Index by Carol Willsey Bell, C.G., Heritage Books

Gano (Gano-Ganoe-Ganow) Family U.S.A., 1970, Howard Marshall Lemaster

Search for the Passengers of the Mary & John 1630, Vol. 2 & 20

Mercer County, Ohio Cemetery Inscriptions, Vol. I through VIII, all indexed

Palatines to America: The Ancestor Chart Project, Vol. 2, 1982

Palatines to America: Surname Index 1980

Calendar of Wills, Albany, New York 1626-1836, Berthold Fernow

Burial Inscriptions of Old Town of Derby, Connecticut

Denman Family Newsletter

Ireland, Fundamental Sources for Irish Genealogical Research, D. W. Radford

Nicholas Snow Genealogy-Nicholas Snow of Plymouth and Easham and Some of His Descendants

Jurisdictional Histories for Ohio's Eighty-eight Counties 1788-1985, W. Louis Phillips, C.G., Heritage Books

NOTE: The library would like copies of Ohio Civil War Genealogical Journal, 4 issues, 2000 and Ohio Report, Spring & Summer, 2000 & 2001. Does anyone have these to donate?


The September Safari will be to Burbank (Southern California Genealogical Library) and Glendale (Sons of the Revolution Library). Please meet in the LDS parking lot a little before 9:00 a.m. on Sept. 25. This will be a long day. You will need to bring a lunch and be prepared with $$ for dinner. As always, Passengers, please help pay for gas.


Originally Published in the H.A.G.S. Informer, Vol 21, No. 9 September 1998

(Reprinted with some abbreviations from Desert Diggings,Vol. 22, No. 3, July 2002)

   IF YOU NEED                          LOOK FIRST IN                                              THEN SEARCH                           
Age			Census, Vital Records, Cemeteries		Military Records,Taxation	
Birth Date		Vital Records, Church Records, Bible	Cemeteries, Obituaries, Census	
Birthplace		Vital Records, Church Records, Census	Newspapers, Obituaries
City of Parish -		Emigration & Immigration, Census		Military Rec., Vital Rec., Newspaper obits.
   foreign birth	
County Origins & 	History, Maps				Gazetteers
Divorce			Court Records, Vital Records		Newspapers
Ethnicity		Minorities, Native Races, Societies		Church Rec., Emigration & Immigration,
     Naturalization & Citizenship Rec.
Historical Background	History, Periodicals			Minorities
Immigration date		Emig. & Immig., Nat. & Cit., Genealogy	Census, Newspapers, Biography	
Living Relatives &	Genealogy, Directories, Court Rec., Obits.	Census, Biography, Census, Church Rec.,
   Adoption								Probate Records
Maiden Name		Vital Rec., Church Rec., Newsp., Bible	Cemeteries, Military Rec., Probate Rec.
Marriage		Vital Rec., Church Rec., Census, Bible,	Cemeteries, Military Rec., Probate Rec.,
                          Newspapers			    Nat. & Cit., Land & Property
Occupation		Census, Directories, Emig. & Immig. Rec.	Newspapers, Court Records
Parents, Children &	Vital Rec., Church Rec., Census, Probate	Bible Rec., Newspapers, Emig. & Immig.
   Family Members		Rec., Obituaries		
Physical Description	Military Records, Biography		Nat.& Cit., Vital Rec., Emig&Immig.,
Place-Finding Aids	Gazetteers, Maps				History, Periodicals
Place (Town) of res.-	Census(indexed), Genealogy, Mil. Rec.	Biography, Prob. Rec., History
   only state known	   Vital Rec., Other Rec.- statewide index	
Places Family lived	Census, Land & Property, History		Military Rec., Taxation, Obituaries
Previous Research -	Genealogy Periodicals, Societies		History, Biography
   compiled genealogies	
Record-finding Aids	Archives & Libraries, Societies		Periodicals
Religion		Church Rec., History, Biography		Bible Rec., Cemeteries, Genealogy
Social Activities       History, Biog., Newspapers, Societies	Town Rec., Court Rec., Cemeteries, Directories, 


New Member: Marlene Elster, researching AMSTETER in Chicago, Slovakia, NY; ELSTER in Chicago, LA; GOODMAN in Chicago, Slovakia, NY

Guests: Judith Bryant, researching COX, ALTIC, WESTERFIELD, ASJWORTH, HODGES, and YOUNG

Walter Scott, researching SCOTT in Ireland, PA, OR & OH; HAYNES in Iowa



Pat Weeks <>

Eugenia Gannon <>


In the August CSGA Newsletter, Iris Carter Jones published an article on the progress of SB1614, a Bill currently in Committee in the State Legislature, which, if passed, could restrict public access to vital records, affecting genealogical researchers. She proposes the following:

"WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS KEEP OUR EYE ON OUR GOAL TO KILL SB1614 and preserve our birth and death indexes, make sure they remain public information, and encourage right-thinking legislation that could and will help curtail identity theft. Because of the uncertain timing of the next hearing on SB1614, we must continue our efforts to let our legislators know of our opposition. . . . . The Genealogy community saved our vital records from closure in the mid-1990's! WE CAN DO IT AGAIN! . . . . Let's talk about the Good Bill SB247 also by Senator Speier. This bill is similar to a bill we sponsored in the mid-1990's to safeguard birth records. . . Now, here is a bill that researchers can support, allowing Dept. of Health Services the tools they need to protect the public from identity theft and facilitate future contingencies. . . WHAT WE CAN DO? If you have not contacted Senator Speier, Governor Davis and the members of the Assembly Judiciary Committee, please do so right away."

A list of addresses for the Judiciary Committe, committee members, some assemblymen and senators, has been provided by our Webmaster, Herb Abrams, on the SOCCGS List Archives. To follow State legislation, go to To contact the CSGA Legislative Network Coordinator, email Iris Carter Jones at <>.

NARA Fall Workshops Schedule

Introduction to Genealogical Resources: Wed. Sept. 25; Thurs. Oct. 17; Wed. Nov. 6, 9:30 a.m.

Introduction to Military Records: Thurs. Sept. 12 & Thurs. Oct 31, 9:30 a.m.

Preserving Your Family's History: Thurs. Oct 3 & Mon Nov 18, 9:30 a.m.

1930 Census Search Strategies: Tues. Sept 17 & Tues. Oct 22, 9:30 a.m.

Naturalization and Immigration Records: Mon. Oct. 7 & Wed. Nov. 13, 9:30 a.m.

Call (949) 360-2641, ext. 0 to reserve for each class and for driving & parking directions. All workshops cost $5, payable at the door.

SOME HUMOR from Pat Weeks

"A Genealogist's Guide to Calorie Burning Activities with Calories burned/hour"

Jumping to conclusions......................100 Dragging your heels............................100

Adding fuel to the fire........................150 Passing the buck.................................. 25

Wading through paperwork................300 Eating crow..........................................275

Beating around the bush..................... 75 Jumping on the bandwagon.................350

Making mtns. out of molehills............500 Swallowing your pride......................... 50

Running in circles...............................200 Climbing the walls...............................150

Pushing your luck...............................250 Bending over backward....................... 75

Opening a can of worms..................... 50 Hitting the nail on the head.................. 50

Tootin' your own horn........................ 25 Throwing your weight around........ 50-300

(depends on how much you weigh)


Finding Your Illusive Ancestor by Nancy Giles

Reprinted with the author's permission from WAGS Newsletter Vol. 21, No. 12, May 2002.

I know that I have discussed brick walls before and that reviewing your family group sheets and information that you have on hand is the first step to identifying them. However, I hope the following suggestions will be of some help to finding some of the hidden answers in uncovering your problem ancestors.

As always, in class, I remind my fellow researchers that you must know something about the area in which you are researching. It is absolutely necessary to know the history of the area and which counties relate to the locality. For most beginning researchers, the county where they believe their ancestor lived has been formed from one or more counties; this is important to be aware of. If the record you are trying to locate cannot be found in the county you are researching, you must check the counties relevant to that county's formation, to see if the records were retained by the previous county, or counties, from which the new county was formed.

You must know, from the history of the area, what would have been the reason for your ancestor to settle there. If they were farmers, perhaps the land was conducive to making a good livelihood by farming there. Did they come as part of a group, to settle with the same families and friends they came into the new country with; did they settle into a city because the occupation they were doing in the old country was badly needed and they knew that they would find work; did they come in as an indentured servant, having been enticed by an individual or company who sought employees, etc.? You also want to know something of the history of the area from which they came. Were they escaping religious persecution or famine, or just enticed to come to the new country because of stories they heard from other relatives, friends, and neighbors who had made it good in the new country and went back and told the others?

Once you know some of the history of both areas, you can readily put yourself in their shoes and think about what records they might have generated with the move.

Usually the first records a beginning genealogist thinks of are birth, death, and marriage records, but as they become more learned in researching they realize that there are many other records which will allow them to know their ancestors. Prior to formal registration of vital records, which in most cases did not occur until after the late 1800s and early 1900s, the most obvious records are church records. However, information may also be found in land records (one of the very earliest forms of records kept); tax records; employment records; applications for business licenses; applications to social organizations (if rural, grange records are very helpful); immigration and naturalization; school records; census records (both federal and state); military records.

Again, working with your timeline, walk yourself through your ancestor's life. Imagine it as a diary that you are writing for your ancestor and try to walk in his or her shoes. If you are lucky enough to have a diary of your ancestor, read it carefully and work up your list of record sources using it as a guideline. As you acquire the copies of the records, your ancestor will become even more vivid to you, as many will contain actual physical descriptions of your ancestor.

Much of this is repetitious to what you have read and heard from other teachers and lecturers, but it is so valuable to remember in your researching that it bears repeating often.



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