Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 7 No 9 ...Editor: Gail Gilbert ...September 2000

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

 P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690

Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year for individuals, $25 for joint membership. SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.


16 September 2000 Speaker to be announced.


10 September 2000 The Jewish Genealogical Society of OC will hold their meeting on Sun., Sept. 10, from 2-4 at the Fed. Board Room of the Jewish Community Center, 250 East Baker Street, Costa Mesa. The speaker will be Dr. Rob Weisskirch on "Using University Library Search Systems."

16-17 September 2000 The San Diego Genealogical Society will hold its GENEALOGICAL AND FAMILY HISTORY FAIR, 9-5:30, at the Scottish Rites Center, San Diego, 1895 Camino Del Rio South, Mission Valley. For info see their web site at:

30 September 2000 GSNOCC will host a GENEALOGY SEMINAR 2000 featuring national speaker and professional genealogist, William C. Kleese, PhD, to be held at the Yorba Linda Community Center at Iperial Hwy & Casa Loma FROM 9-4 pm. Topics will be U.S. & British Church Records, U.S. Court & Probate Records, U.S. Military Records and Institutional, Business & Emplyment Records. Cost is $40 paid in advance or $45 at the door. Contact Eileen Hunt (714) 528-3326 or Jenise Brantley (714) 777-3355 (work).

7 October 2000 A SCOTTISH WORKSHOP will be hosted by the Irish & Scottish "Gaelic" Interest Group of Orange County California Genealogical Society, Sat. from 12:30-4 pm at the Huntington Beach Central Library, 7111 Talbert Ave, Rm. C, Huntington Beach, CA. Speakers will include Chris Lamberton on "The Scottish Tartans", Roberta Landeck on "Scottish Emigration to N. America with Emphasis on Canadian Emigration", and Kathleen Ferguson Kane on "Scottish Research Tools." Cost will be $3 payable at the door. For more information contact: Kathleen Ferguson Kane, e-mail:

7October 2000 NSDCGS & Cole Library present's SEMINAR BYTES OF KNOWLEDGE from 9-4 pm at the Dove Library Auditorium, 1775 Dove Lane, Carlsbad, CA. Call Bee Koons at (760) 723-0676 or e-mail


SEPT 27 Sons of the Revolution & So. CA Genealogical Society Libraries

(Prior sign up necessary as we leave at 9:00 a.m.)

OCT 25 Riverside and San Bernardino Libraries

NOV 22 Carlsbad Library

DEC 27 Will go somewhere if there's enough interest

Note: This schedule is subject to change without prior notice. Any questions, please contact Janet Franks at (949) 496-8428.


For information on NARA workshops, held at 24000 Avila Rd., Laguna Niguel, call (949) 360-2541.

For schedule of current classes being held at the LA Family History Center, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles, call (310) 474-9990 or visit their website at

For information on classes held at the Orange FHC, 674 S. Yorba St., Orange, call Beth McCarty at (714) 998-3408. The mini class schedule for fall is as follows:

Sep 6, Wed 10-11 am Tips on Using the Census Linda Newsom

Sep 14, Thur 6-8 pm Native American Research Dan Bartosz

Sep 16, Sat 10-noon Hungarian Resarch Vera Broyles

Sep 20, Wed 10-noon Getting Your Queries Noticed on Line Barbara Renick

Sep 22, Fri 11-noon Church of England Records Beth McCarty

Sep 29, Fri 10-11 am How to Organize Your Genealogy Celia Christensen

Sep 30, Sat 9-10 am Beginning Spanish Research Ophelia Marquez

Sep 30, Sat 10-5 pm Intermediate Spanish Research TBA

Oct 18, Wed 10-noon File It, Find It - Part I Linda Newsom

Oct 20, Fri 11-noon English Probate Records Beth McCarty

Oct 21, Sat 10-noon Hungarian Research Vera Broyles

Oct 25, Wed 10-noon Tips, Tricks & Tools for Internet Usage Barbara Renick

Oct 27, Fri 10-11 am Seeking Civil War Records Celia Christensen

Oct 28, Sat 10 am-4 pm Ohio Genealogical Society Seminar on

Ohio Research (Reservation required)

Nov 8, Wed 10-noon U.S. Census On-Line Barbara Renick

Nov 9, Thur 10-11 am How to Use Public & University Libraries Norma Keating

Nov 15, Wed 10-noon File It, Find It - Part II Linda Newsom

Nov 17, Fri 10-11 am How to Find U.S. Colonial Records Celia Christensen

Nov 18, Sat 10-noon Hungarian Research Vera Boyles

Dec 6, Wed 10-noon Starting Your Personal History - Part I Linda Newsom

Dec 7, Thur 10-11 am Putting the Gene Back in Genealogy Norma Keating

Dec 8, Fri 10-11 am Carved in Stone: Cemetery Hints, Humor Celia Christensen

Dec 13, Wed 10-noon Starting Your Peronal History - Part II Linda Newsom

Dec 16, Sat 10-noon Hungarian Research Vera Boyles

For classes at the Mission Viejo Family History Center, 27976 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo: or phone (949) 364-2742. New classes in "Beginning Genealogy" and "Computers in Genealogy" start on October 3 and continue through Nov. 7 on Tuesday evenings 7-9 pm . No charge!


Classes in both Beginning and Intermediate Computer-assisted Genealogy are being offered as a service by the Orange Co. CA Genealogy Society from Sept. through Dec. in Room C, the General Meeting Room of the Huntington Beach Central Library, 7111 Talbert Ave., Huntington Beach, CA.

A fee of $2 for OCCGS members ($4 for non-members) is payable at the door on the day of the meetings. OCCGS Website: The schedule is as follows:

Beginning Computer-assisted Genealogy by Dr. Lloyd Budwig (

Sept 7, Thurs @ 1 pm Basic Windows: Desktop, Icons, & Shortcuts, Load or delete software

Oct 5, Thurs @ 1 pm Word Processors & Paint: Word Pad, Note Pad, Window Paint

Nov 2, Thurs @ 1 pm Windows Explorer: System Tools, Review of Sept & Oct

Dec 7, Thurs @ 1 pm My Computer & Control Panel: Review

Intermediate Computer-assisted Genealogy by Chris Hansen (

Sept 21, Thurs @ 1 pm Digital Photography & Genealogy & Internet: Genealogy Sites/Queries

Oct 19, Thurs @ 1 pm Writing a Family History: GenGook, Book Functions of FTM &

GEDCOM and Data BackUp

Nov 16, Thurs @ 1 pm Scanning: Scan photos, Edit scanned photos, Insert photos into FTM



History 105, "Family History and Genealogy" (Ticket No. 0048) is being offered for personal interest or 3 units of college credit. The class runs from Tues, Aug. 29 for 16 weeks through Dec. 12. It meets in the Social Sciences Bldg. 109 at the Costa Mesa campus from 6-9:10 pm. Instructor, Doug Mason has taught a variety of history courses at Orange Coast over the past 19 years, and his experience in family history includes serving as county coordinator for the Ray Co., MO GenWeb Site on the Internet. His course will cover Beginning Genealogy, Developing Research Strategies, Studying Family and Social History, and Sharing & Discussing research problems and findings with other historians. For information on registering, contact Orange Coast College (714) 432-5072.


Our Librarian, Janet Franks, has appointed Richard Faber as Chairman of the Book Selection Committee and Rich is now looking for a couple committee volunteers. The committee meets only 4 times a year with the meeting being between 1 to 2 hours each. The next meeting is Wednesday, September 6th at 1:00 pm at the Mission Viejo Library. Anyone interested in joining this committee or anyone with book suggestions for the committee, can contact Rich at (949) 364-0745 or e-mail him at


Dorothy Albin submits: "Anyone with ancestors from Page or Taylor Counties in Iowa might find the web site "Abstracted Newspaper Index" to be helpful.

You can contact Dorothy at (949) 830-2899 or e-mail

Pat McCoy sent us an article from the Aug. 8th OC Register on "Cyber immunity" which points out that 46% of 303 home PC users contacted stored vital personal data on their computers and their main concern was computer viruses. Pat says, "It's also suggested to print out your genealogy information. Computers are changing so quickly that in a short time there may be no way to access our stored information. It's happened to some stored information in Washington, D.C."

Karyn Schumaker submits some cemetery advice taken from the Seneca Searcher, May/June newsletter. They suggest you take binoculars with you , find a good vantage point and scan the grave markers from one spot to save a lot of walking. Before trying to clean a stone, consult a conservation specialist for a list of do's and don'ts. A couple good websites for advice are and, or write The Association of Gravestone Studies, 278 Main St., Ste. 207, Greenfield, MA 01301 for a leaflet.


LAHEY Looking for Joseph Patrick LAHEY, died in 1950 (something) in Glendale, CA. He was married to Lydia King (or Koenig) Lahey ATKINSON. Also -

DALY Any information re: James DALY, b. 1770 Co. Kerry Tralee, Ireland, or children (1) Eugene DALY, b. 1810, d. 1885 (2) Timothy DALY, b. 1812, d. 28APR1901 (3) James DALY Jr., b. 3FEB1815, d. 28FEB1896. All lived in Smithport, PA.

Contact Cynthia Daly Ryan, phone (949 770-3296 or e-mail


Member Karyn Schumaker passes along these things to keep in mind while researching which she found in the Durham-Orange (NC) Genealogical Society newsletter:

1. There are approximately three generations per century.

2. In earlier times the average age for men to marry was 24 and they rarely married before age 16.

3. The average age for women was twenty and they rarely married before age 16.

4. First marriages were usually between couples near the same age. Women generally outlived their husbands, but older widowers frequently married much younger women who had never been married before.

5. Births generally occurred at two-year intervals. Frequently the first child was born a year after the marriage. As a woman aged, the interval between births grew slightly. Child bearing generally ended at around age 45.

6. Families and neighbors usually migrated together from their previous location. Women rarely traveled alone.

7. Men usually married women from their neighborhood, but if a seemingly "strange" woman turns up, check the man's former home. Often men returned to their prior residence to find a wife.

8. If you can't find an old parent, chances are he/she "went West" with a son.

9. If you have a male ancestor born about 1840, strongly consider Civil War service.

10. If your ancestor has a virtue name (e.g. Patience, Charity, Silence etc.) consider a New England Heritage.

11. Children were often named for grandparents, both male and female. Frequently middle names or even a first name was the mother's grandmother's maiden name, especially if the name was related through several related families.


At our June meeting our speaker, Nancy Huebotter, presented many helpful systems for "Bringing Order Out of Chaos" in storing our genealogy research. We would like to repeat here, with her permission, her list of ways to preserve your family collection of papers and memorabelia, which she says came from the Internet.


1. The best protection for your books, papers, photographs, and prints is a "safe" environment: moderate temperature and relative humidity, clean air and good air circulation, no natural or fluorescent light, and good housekeeping.

2. Avoid powerful sources of heat, damp, and pollution; don't store your valuable books, photos, and papers in attics or basements or near water sources like washing machines or bathrooms. Think about what's in the room above your heirlooms, too.

3. Heat causes damage. Don't hang valuable objects over radiators, heat-producing appliances or the fireplace. Books you want to read 20 years from now shouldn't be shelved on the mantle, the window sill or the radiator.

4. Light causes fading and other damage. Keep photos and art (prints, watercolors, and other works on paper) in the dark as much as possible. Don't put valuable books and paper where they'll get direct sun or bright light of any kind. Hallways or other rooms without windows are best. Install and use shades and heavy curtains where you can't avoid windows.

5. Use a museum-quality (fully "acid-free") mat and frame to display any valuable photo or artwork -- even children's drawings. Indoor pollution is a growing problem in energy-conscious spaces with good insulation, and causes rapid damage to paper. The glass or plastic glazing of a frame will keep pollution and dirt away, and the item's edges will not be damaged by handling or tacks.

6. If you want your wedding pictures (or photos of any event) to last for your grandchildren, have the photographer take a roll of black-and-white photos. Video, color slides and most color prints have a limited life expectancy.

7. If you want to keep a clipping from the newspaper for the longterm, have it photocopied on to buffered paper (e.g., Xerox XXV Century Bond or Howard Permalife). The copy will last far longer than the original.

8. Letters, clippings, and other documents you want to preserve should be stored unfolded in buffered folders. Folding and unfolding breaks paper and can cause damage as items are removed and replaced. If you can't find buffered folders, use a sheet of buffered paper (e.g., Xerox XXV Century Bond or Howard Permalife) at the front and back of a folder.

9. When storing photos in an album, use "photo" or "archival" mounting corners (available from photography suppliers or stamp dealers), not glues or self-sealing plastic, which can stick to or react with your pictures.

10. To remove the musty smell from old books, make sure they are dry. Put them in a cool, dry space for a couple of days or put them outside on a table in the sun on a dry, breezy day for a couple of hours. If the musty smell remains, put them in an open container (e.g., polyethylene pail, box) inside a large, closed container (e.g., clean, dry garbage pail, box) with an open box of baking soda or a pot-pourri. Do not allow the deodorizer to touch the books. Leave for a few days in a cool place, checking once a day to make sure no mold is growing. Remove to a safe storage environment.

11. To remove staples or old paperclips from documents (especially if the fastener is rusty), slide a very thin piece of stiff plastic (e.g., polyester, polypropylene) under the fastener on both sides of the document. Slide the paperclip off the plastic or use a pair of tweezers or a thin knife to bend the ends of the staple up and pry it out. The plastic will protect the paper from abrasion and your tools, Staple pullers tear paper.



A source for information on Scottish research is The Family Tree newspaper, edited by Beth Gay, of The Ellen Payne Odom Genealogical Library in Moultrie, Georgia. According to Nellie Graham Lowry, Genealogist for the Clan Graham Society, "The Odom Library is the repository for the genealogical materials of 112 Scottish Clan Societies. It serves as a central source of information and a place of study for Scottish as well as other ethnicities. The Family Tree is published bi-monthly and has a distribution of over 76,000 copies." For information contact Nellie Graham Lowry of the Clan Graham Society, 9654 Kessler Ave., Chatsworth, CA 91311-5533, (818) 886-4968 or e-mail

Help with researching Scotland's royal families may be found at:


The schedule for Ancestors on Los Angeles PBS channels, along with other instructional materials and research aids, may be found at For the first week in September, we found the following:

Fri 9/1 KOCE (Hunt. Bch) at 12:30 pm, "Records at Risk" 201; records, genealogies, mocrofilm.

Sat 9/2 KCET at 4 pm, "Probate Records" 211; traveling, courthouse, probate records, wills.

Sat 9/2 KLCS at 7:30 pm, "Writing a Family History" 213

Sun 9/3 KLCS at 11:00 pm, "Records at Risk" 201

U.S. CENSUS RECORDS has announced it should have available, by mid-September, digital pictures of all U.S. census records from 1790 to 1920. To read their press release go to:

To learn more about the census, the 8/24 issue of Rootsweb Review, Vol. 3, no. 34, offers the following web sites.

For "Secrets of the Census":

For types of information collected:

For printable reproductions of forms:

For researching European census records:

For nine free maps showing changing US boundaries between 1790-1870:



Anonymous from Internet

10. You introduce your daughter as your descendent

9. You've never met any of the people you send e-mail to, even though you're related.

8. You can recite your lineage back eight generations, but can't remember your nephew's name.

7. You have more photographs of dead people than living ones.

6. You've even taken a tape recorder and/or notebook to a family reunion.

5. You've not only read the latest GEDCOM standard, you understand it!

4. The local genealogy society borrows books from you!

3. The only film you've seen in the last year was the 1880 census index.

2. More than half of your CD collection is made up of marriage records or pedigrees.

1. Your elusive ancestor has been spotted in more different places than Elvis!


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