Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 6 No 8 Editor: Gail Gilbert August 1999

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

 P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690

Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year for individuals, $25 for joint membership. SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.


21 August 1999 SOCCGS member, Bernard Keen, will present his "full" presentation on "How The Calendar Affects Genealogical Research." Bernard gave a shortened version of this lecture during our June meeting, and we all are anxious to learn more.

18 September 1999 Bud Miner will be our Guest Speaker and will talk on "How to Write Your Family History." Everyone attending this meeting will receive a copy of Mr. Miner's 7-page "Family History Questionnaire."

18 September 1999 "California History Day" will be celebrated in Mission Viejo from 10-2 at the Mission Viejo Library and will include among other events a flag pole dedication to the State of CA. Do plan to attend after our membership meeting.

25 September 1999 Our second SOCCGS All-Day Seminar, "Your Family in History" will feature guest speakers, classes, prizes and fun, to be held at the Mission Viejo City Library. Plans are taking shape, so watch for our flyer giving details in the next newsletter.

16 October 1999 Barbara Renick will be our Guest Speaker once again. Her topic for this meeting will be "How Computers Are Changing Genealogical Research."

20 November 1999 Speaker to be announced.

18 December 1999 Instead of our regular meeting, we will have our Installation of Officers for the year 2000, followed by our Annual Holiday Party. Everyone is asked to bring his or her favorite "holiday treat", and beverages will be provided.

15 January 1999 Toni Perrone will once again be our Guest Speaker. In March 1999, Toni spoke on "General German Research." This time Toni will speak on "General Italian Research."


7 August 1999 Joan Lowrey will present an on-line demonstration of "German Genealogy on the Internet" at the LDS San Diego State Center, 4195 Camino del Rio South, north entrance.

26-28 August 1999 The 12th Annual British Isles Family History Society - USA Family History Seminar will be held in Los Angeles, featuring Colin Chapman on England and Wales, Paul Smart on Scotland, and Tony McCarthy on Ireland. For complete information call (310) 838-6085 or visit their web site,

25 September 1999 The Genealogical Society of North Orange County will hold a genealogical workshop, "Discovering Your Heritage", to be presented by the Everton's Genealogical Helper, from 8:00 am - 4:00 pm at the Yorba Linda Community Center. Fees are $30 if registered by August 25 or $35 at the door. Mail checks to GSNOCC, P.O. Box 706, Yorba Linda, CA 92885-0706. (We remind you, however, that this is the same day as SOCCGS's All-Day Seminar, which is "free".)

9 October 1999 The North San Diego County Genealogical Society (NSDCGS) will be sponsoring a Fall Seminar, featuring two one-hour lectures by Kathleen Trevino among others. Information will be available in future newsletters or over the Internet.

23-24 October 1999 The Orange County History Conference is scheduled on this date, to be held at Cal State University at Fullerton. This year the conference will be adding genealogy as part of their workshop program. SOCCGS will have a table set up on Oct. 24th, and we will be inviting people who inquire to visit our genealogical library in Mission Viejo on the 25th.

28-29 January 2000 The San Diego Genealogical Society & Convention & Visitors Bureau will present "Bridging the Centuries: Bringing Genealogy and Technology Together" at the San Diego Concourse Convention Center. For more information: (888) 5222-7313,, or website

26 February 2000 The Whittier Area Genealogical Society will have Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck speaking on "Research in the Heartland TX, OK, KS, NE, MO. Information: (562) 695-5431.

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This month's Safari was planned for July 28th to the Carlsbad Library. Remember, these Safaris are held on the 4th Wed. of the month, but are not scheduled soon enough to be included in our newsletter. Contact Rich Faber, our Safari Leader, at (949) 364-0745, or if you can't reach him, try Janet Franks at (949) 496-8428. She is a "frequent traveller."





Remember that the Carlsbad Library at 1250 Carlsbad Village Drive will be closing for renovations on September 1st and is expected to be closed until Nov. 6. The Genealogy and Local History Collection will remain at this downtown site, which is to be renamed the Georgina Cole Library, and will offer an expanded, improved facility. Our Safari trip in August may be to this library again, since we all want to get research done there while it is still open. Be sure to check with the Safari Leader so you don't miss out. Before planning your own visit, we suggest you call the library at (619) 434-2870 or check on information from the NSDCGS Web site



While the Carlsbad Library is closed, it might be a good time to visit some of the following sites suggested by our Safari Leader:

The Family History Center (Genealogical Library) in Santa Monica, located at 10741 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90025. Phone (310) 474-2202.

Huntington Beach Central Library, 7111 Talbert Ave. (at Golden West St.), Huntington Beach, CA 92648. Phone (714) 842-4481. The basement level has a genealogical collection of more than 10,000 volumes, with 300 family histories and over 250 periodicals on genealogy.

Sons of the Revolution Library, 600 South Central Avenue, Glendale, CA 91204. Phone (818) 240-1775. $1donation required. Has 1700 family histories and 10,000 town, country and state histories.

Los Angeles Public Library, 630 N. Fifth Street, Los Angeles, CA 90071. It has the largest public library genealogical collection in Southern California, including microfilm of U. S. city directories from 1861 to 1935.

Southern California Genealogical Society Library, 122 South San Fernando Road, Burbank, CA 91503. Phone (818) 843-7247. They have a major collection which is strong in regional periodicals.

Pomona Public Library, 625 South Garey St., Pomona, CA 91769. Phone (909) 620-2043. Considered to be a major genealogical library.

Sherman Foundation Library, 614 Dahlia Avenue, Corona del Mar, CA 92625. Has the LA Times on microfilm from 1881 on.


The Los Angeles Family History Center has on-going classes each month, on almost a daily basis. We usually receive the schedule of these courses too late to publish in our newsletter, however, you may call them for information on the next month's schedule at (310) 474-9990 or (310) 474-2202. The course topics range from general to specific interests, for example, some offered in July: Deciphering Old Writing and Documents, Cherokee Research "Red, White and Black", How to Conduct a Personal Interview, or Genealogy Research on the Web. If you miss a topic you were interested in, audio tapes on previous classes are available. Incidentally, the WAGS Newsletter, Vol. 18 #10, March 1999, informed us that this LDS library has a complete set of immigration passenger lists and that no other LDS library outside of Salt Lake City has all of the lists.



The Family History Center in Mission Viejo will be closed August 23 through 25, due to parking lot repaving.



The Familia Ancestral Research Association is dedicated to assisting the serious Hispanic researcher by providing: lectures, educational workshops, networking sessions, seminars informative newsletters, publications and resource materials. They meet 6 times a year and alternate locations between Golden West College in Huntington Beach and CAL State University, Northridge (CSUN) in San Fernando Valley. Call Reta Brown at (714) 687-0390 to check on meeting time and location or write to their mailing location P. O. Box 10359, Westminster, CA 92685-0359.



As most of you realize, we are experiencing a virtual explosion of web sites pertaining to genealogy on the Internet, and it can be simply over-whelming. Thank heaven for Cyndi Howell who announced (GSNOCC Newsletter, Vol. 15 #6, June 1999) that her book, the printed version of Cyndi's List, is now available. Cyndi's List - The Book! A Comprehensive List of 40,000 Genealogy Sites on the Internet is 880 pages and costs $49.95. It can be ordered from Genealogical Publishing Company at 1-800-296-6687 or at,Computers/2932.html. For complete details about the book you can refer to Cindi's two new reference web pages: or <> for an order form.

In the meantime, here are some more interesting web sites we have been collecting:

From GSNOCC Newsletter Vol. 15 #6, June 1999:

1. A list of counties included in the Library of Congress collection of over 1500 land ownership maps can be accessed at web site: http://www/

2. A free language translation service, translation done by humans, can be accessed via e-mail. The sponsoring Web site is < > (Original source: The Gazette pub. by Genealogy Club, Sun City Palm Desert, May 1999.)

From WAGS Newsletter Vol. 19 #1, June 1999:

1. Karen Ristic, CGRS, in her WAGS Computer Column, mentions a fairly new site she feels is worth exploring. It is a "portal" or starting place which provides easy access to some other web sites which offer information not easily accessed by traditional links. Try:

From WAGS Newsletter Vol. 19 #2, July 1999:

1. NARA has created a database for ~3100 of their microfilmed publications located at:

2. A worldwide source for exchanging information about German Emigrants and immigrants is:

3. A site which lists over 75,000 North Central West Virginia names is:

4. For a list of many German and Austrian names from the Upper Palatinate try:

5. The American Genealogical-Biographical Index is now available on-line at:< >


A reminder that the Mission Viejo Library will be closed September 5th and 6th for Labor Day.

Betty McKenzie, our librarian, has expressed a need for a volunteer for Tuesday nights, 7-9 pm.


1. Toil, Tears, & Triumph, A History of Kincardine Township, Bruce County, Ontario, Canada by Wanita Hollands Fletcher. Donated by Donald J. Macdonald.

2. Genealogical Helper, Vol. 53, #3, May/June 1999. Donated by Chris Parrish.

3. Selections from the Correspondence of the Executive of New Jersey, from 1776-1786. Donated by Janet Franks.

4. Heritage Quest, Vol. 15, 1999 and Index for Vols. 1-78. Donated by Sharon Robison.

5. New England Historical and Genealogical Society Register, Vol. 153, #610, April 1999. Donated by SOCCGS.

6. Colonial Dames Rosters in three volumes. Donated by Peg Axlund

7. Western Pennsylvania Genealogical Society Quarterly, Vol. 25, #2 & #3, Fall 1998. Donated by Donald Woodmancy.

8. Genealogical Helper, 3 vols. Jan. thru Apr. 1999. Donated by Donald Woodmancy.

9. The Colonial Clergy & Colonial Churches of New England. Donated by Beverly Long.

10. The Halfway East Detroit Story by Robert Christenson. Donated by SOCCGS.

11. Petter Nybakken Family by Julie Merkle. Donated by Grace Clark

12. Vital Statistics of Seabrook, New Hampshire, 1768-1903 by William Jones. Donated by SOCCGS.

13. Memoir Concerning the French Settlements and French Settlers in the Colony of Rhode Island by Elisha Potter. Donated by SOCCGS.

14. Atlas of Pickaway County, Ohio by D. J. Lake. Donated by Robert Culp

15. Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island by John Austin. Donated by SOCCGS

16. Indiana Magazine of History, Vol. 95, #2, June 1999. Donated by SOCCGS

17. Wilderness Road, Bullitt county (KY) Genealogical Society, Vol. 11, #4, June 1999. Donated by Chris Parrish

18. Dewey Decimal Place List, United States and Canada by Nancy Carlberg. Donated by SOCCGS

19. Military Buried in Iowa Cemeteries: Buchanan Co., IA by Diane Sargent. Donated by SOCCGS

20. Military Buried in Iowa Cemeteries: Johnson Co., IA by Diane Sargent. Donated by SOCCGS

21. Military Buried in Iowa Cemeteries: Appanoose Co., IA by Diane Sargent. Donated by SOCCGS

22. Military Buried in Iowa Cemeteries: Adair Co., IA by Diane Sargent. Donated by SOCCGS

23. History of Frederick County Maryland by T. Williams & Folger McKinsey, Vols. 1 & 2. Donated by SOCCGS

24. History of Scituate, Massachusetts, From Its First Settlement to 1831 by Samuel Deane. Donated by SOCCGS

25. The Home Lots of the Early Settlers of the Providence Plantations by Charles Hopkins. Donated by SOCCGS

26. History of the Town of Springfield, Vermont 1752-1895 by C. Hubbard and Justus Dartt. Donated by Colonial Dames in memory of Laura Stone from Cavalier Chapter Colonial Dames XVII Century

27. Ramsey County Minnesota Relief Records 1862-1868 by Paula Warren. Donated by SOCCGS

28. Minnesota 1900 Census Mortality Schedule by James Warren. Donated by SOCCGS

29. Bureau of Land Management Homestead Records Pueblo Colorado, County, Range & Township Section Map by Genealogical Society of Pueblo, CO. Donated by SOCCGS


The microfilm reader for our library will be purchased only when we raise enough money. MaryEllen Lytle, Ways & Means Chairperson, has put together packets of 30 tickets, with pictures of her beautiful hand-made afghans, for members to offer at meetings of other organizations they belong to. Please call Mary Ellen at 581-6852 if you can do this. Remember tickets are $1 each, or 6 for $5.



From Desert Diggings, Vol. 18 #3, July 1999, the Newsletter of the Hi-Desert Genealogical Society, we are reminded "to review your files and rethink your research problems," advice well taken. Sometimes, after a time lapse, we see things differently. A name that was meaningless to us before may now leap off the page at us, as we have added more information to our database. We may see something we overlooked before or we may now have more tools for checking out previously elusive data. I have personally found this true, as I have recently been reviewing research I started 30 years ago. To my amazement, a single connection made now has opened up other connections that I had before me in the past, but didn't recognize as meaningful. This same newsletter reminds us to also not accept data at face value:

"If a reference is made to a person having been born in Virginia as early as 1728 to as late as 1863, it could mean that he or she was born in:

any part of Illinois from 1781 to statehood in 1818;

any part of Indiana from 1781 to statehood in 1816;

any part of Kentucky from 1775 to statehood in 1792;

any part of Maryland from 1775 to statehood in 1792;

any part of North Carolina from 1728 to 1779;

any part of Ohio from 178 to statehood in 1803;

any part of Pennsylvania from 1752 to 1768;

any part of Tennessee from 1760 to 1803 or

any part of West Virginia from 1769 to 1863."

(Originally from The Applehead Bulletin; Seen in Odem Library's Family Tree Feb/Mar 1996 and then from Rocky Mountain Buckeye Vol. VIII #1 April/May 1996 pg 5, CO Chapter of OGS, P.O. Box 1006, Longmont, CO 80502-1106)


I am reminded of that familiar quote, "genealogy without documentation is mythology." Our speaker at the July meeting, Barbara Renick, did a great job of reminding us of this with her talk on "The 5 W's of Source Citations" - To Avoid UFO's! (Unidentified Family Origins). For those of you who missed the meeting, we will repeat some of the basics. Record your sources twice; when first doing the research and when recording it in your database. Make it a rule to copy the title page, the back of the title page, any explanation pages, the table of contents and/or relevant parts of the index. Then, record the who, what, where, when and why: who wrote it, what it's called, where your research was done (recorded, filed, transcribed, published etc.), where it was found, and why you made the judgments you did. She further recommends, make notes; for example, how to get to the cemetery, the condition of the source - legible?, the person you spoke with and how reliable is that person?, and finally, what other records were relevant. Barbara pointed out that no two groups cite sources the same way, but it is important to give enough detail. She advised using the PAF Documentation Guidelines and offered the additional references, Cite Your Sources by Richard Lackey and Evidence by Elizabeth Shown Mills. PAF Windows Version 4.0 may be downloaded free from using item #7, Order family history resources - downloadable Family History Products. It uses 3.48 mb. The standards for citing sources today are given in a template form in Evidence which is available in the advanced level of "Ultimate Family Tree." However, the 17 piece source templates don't transfer over correctly in a GEDCOM file which still handles the source section as a single lump of data. Thus, there is no perfect source standard, and we find ourselves limited by a delay in GEDCOM's evolution. We thoroughly enjoyed Barbara Renick's talk and look forward to her next visit to our October meeting when she will present "How Computers Are Changing Genealogical Research."


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