Saddleback Valley Trails

Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 8 No 6 ...Editor: Gail Gilbert ...June 2001

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

 P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690

Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year for individuals, $25 for joint membership. SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.



16 June 2001 To be announced. Watch our web site at:

21 July 2001 Norma Keating will cover "Danish Research" for us.


3 June 2001 The Czech Genealogy group is growing and you can join them at their next bi-monthly meeting on Sunday at 1:30 at Marie Callendars on Grand Avenue, Santa Ana, CA.

23-25 August 2001 The British Isles Family History Society -USA will present its 14th Annual British & Irish Genealogical Seminar, "Journey to the Past" on the Queen Mary in Long Beach with famous speakers from England, Ireland, Scotland & Wales. The cost for those who register before June 1 is $150 for members and $175 for non-members. For additional information visit their web site at: or call Dorothy Losee at (310) 838-6085 or email her at <>.

12-15 Sept 2001The Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS) will hold its FGS/Quad Cities Conference, " Great River Bend Genealogy...Heartland Gathering." Brochures are available from the FGS Business Office, P.O. Box 200940, Austin, TX 787200-0940 or visit their website at

29 Sept 2001 The Genealogy Seminar 2001, "Tracing Your Family Tree in the 21st Century," will be sponsored by the Genealogical Society of North Orange County California (GSNOCC), Saturday from 8:30 - 3 PM at the Yorba Linda Community Center, Imperial Hwy & Casa Loma, Yorba Linda, CA. The featured speaker will be Barbara Renick, Professional Genealogist, known as the "Internet Queen of Genealogy." The cost is $35 if pre-registered by Sept. 10th or $40 at the door, free syllabus included. For more information contact Eileen Hunt (714) 528-3326.

20 Oct 2001 The North San Diego County Genealogical Society (NSDCGS) has scheduled their Annual Fall Seminar from 9 to4 on Saturday at the Dove Library in Carlsbad. The cost of this event will be $20.00 and lunch will be available from TOGO's for $6.

The SOCCGS newsletter deadline for submitting material is the day of the General Meeting if you want to have it included in the next months issue. We welcome any articles of interest, queries or surname searching lists. It would be nice to have more original input from our members. Please mail items to the editor at the SOCCGS address above or email to <>.


1. For current classes at the Mission Viejo Family History Center, 27976 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo: or phone (949) 364-2742.

2. Classes are offered monthly by the LA Family History Center, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles which offer a wide variety of topics, ranging from Beginning Genealogy to more specialized research of ethnic groups such as Cherokee Genealogy, African American Genealogy and even deciphering the old-style Script of German and records. To see the schedule for the current month, go to their website at or call (310) 474-9990.

3. For information on classes held at the Orange FHC, 674 S. Yorba St., Orange, call Beth McCarty at (714) 998-3408. The spring-summer 2001 mini class schedule is as follows:

Wed Jun 6 10-N American Census, Tips and Tricks Linda Newsom

Fri Jun 8 10-11am Tricks and Treats in Family History Celia Christensen

Fri Jun 8 1-2pm Effective Use of the Family History Center Beth McCarty

Wed Jun 13 10-N 3rd Phase of Research, Evaluating What You Find Barbara Renick

Sat Jun 16 10-N Hungarian Research Vera Broyles

Tue Jul 10 7-8:30pm Preparing for Printing & Publishing Tom Underhill

Wed Jul 11 10-N Picturing Your Family History Barbara Renick

Fri Jul 13 10-11am How to Create a Family Newsletter Celia Christensen

Wed Jul 18 10-N File It, Find It Linda Newsom

Sat Jul 21 10-N Hungarian Research Vera Broyles

Tue Jul 24 7-8:30pm Photo Scanning & Retouching Tom Underhill

4. Classes for beginners and intermediates in Computer-assisted Genealogy are offered each month by the Orange County CA Genealogy Society in the General Meeting Room of the Huntington Beach Central Library, 7111 Talbert Ave., Huntington Beach, CA for a fee of $4 for non-members, payable at the door. See for schedule.

5. NARA Schedule of Spring/Summer 2001 Genealogical Workshops:

Sat Jun 2 10:00 am Introduction to Genealogical Resources

Thrs Jun 7 9:30 am Naturalization and Immigration

Thrs Jun 28 9:30 am Preparing for the 1930 Census

Classes are limited so you need to call to reserve a place in each class, (949) 360-2641.

6. The British Isles Family History Society (BIFHS) holds classes monthly at the LA FHC of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd., W. LA. Classes and parking are free. For information contact Dorothy Losee at (310) 838-6085 or e-mail:



by Tom Alex Hruska

Or at least that's what some professional Genealogists will tell you! Case in point: PATHfinders, in Prague, were able to document Bozena (Bertha) my mother's birth plus her older brother Frantisek (Frank) in the Prague archives. They could not find any of the other eight siblings so officially they did not exist.

My researcher, Eduard Kudelka, and I were having lunch in my aunt Ruza (Rose)'s living room, in the Czech Republic, in 1998, when I asked her about her siblings. She rattled off all eight plus their birth dates. I asked Eduard to take notes but he refused. I added Ruza's information to the preliminary pedigree chart we had, but he wouldn't add the material even after Ruza showed us pictures of most of the family including the twins (numbers 9 and 10), the birthing of which killed my Grandmother Elzebetha (Elizabeth).

The three of us later visited the house (41 Kaunitce), where Ruza and my mother were born and raised, where Eduard took notes of their growing up on a farm in the early 1900's, including the story of their step mother who became pregnant by a sailor when she and Bozena came to America. Eduard later gave me a typed copy of their conversation but steadfastly refused to include Ruza and Bohumil (even when I showed him a picture with "Bohumil my brat" written on the back) in the formal chart.

After the obligatory cemetery tour, where Ruza knew half the tombstone names, we returned to her home for coffee. I was joking with Eduard about Ruza being a Bohemian ghost. Ruza evidently followed enough of our English conversation because she reached across the table and pinched Eduard and said in Czech, "Now do you believe I exist?"

Tom Zahn, owner of PATHfinders, later explained that in the world of professional genealogy, or at least the east central European kind, the only time they can enter a name in a pedigree chart is if they can also cite the exact reference where it was found. Tom holds an American Bachelors in Family History and Eduard has a five-year degree, the equivalent of our Masters, in Ancestral Research and is going for his PhD. He later allowed me to touch the marriage record of Vaclav Hruska, nine generations back, who was born in 1612. They take Ancestry seriously in that part of the world. Tom finally agreed to enter aunt Ruza's verbal information into my chart in light purple, so it wouldn't copy.

So, you see, while having verbal information is more human than written records, our scholarly brethren might not believe it, even if it reaches out and pinches them!


Note: We welcome articles from any of you!. Please consider submitting some of your genealogy researching experiences to help make this newsletter more representative of our membership.



We still need docents at the library for: Sun. 1-5, Wed. 10-4, Thur. 10-12 & Fri. 10-12 & 3-5.

These are the time slots that are open, but even if you can only cover a partial time period, your volunteer effort would be greatly appreciated. You don't need to be a genealogy whiz. Just having someone there to greet people with a friendly smile is enough, and often results in bringing new members into our society. This can be a good time to do a little research for yourself., and if there aren't enough books there for you, remember our Internet service is up and running now too. You can sign up to help by calling Janet Franks at (949)498-8438.

The following additions have been made to our book shelves during May:

1. American Indians

2. Immigration & Passenger Arrivals (National Archives Films)

3. Military Service Records

4. White Cloud, Kansas - Birth Marriages & Deaths 1857-1871, 1872-1875

5. Menard County Federal Land Sales Records

6. Tri-County Genealogy (Arkansas) Vol. 15: 2,3; Vol. 16: 1

7. Catawba Cousins from the Catawba County Genealogical Society (NC) Vol. 14: 4

8. New Dictionary of American Family Names from the Friends of the Library

9. Life & Times in Hopkinton, NH (50/50)

10. Geographic Dictionary of Connecticut & Rhode Island from Janet P. Franks

11. German Settlement in Missouri from Robert DeLong

From Mary Jo McQueen:

12. Marriage Registers of Upper Canada Vol. 12 Eastern District 19801-1865

13. Milford Area Diamond Jubilee, Dickinson County, Iowa

14. Where Men Follow After by Hattie P. Elston, Dickinoson Co. , Iowa

15. Sheldon, Vermont by Dorothy H. Ashton

16. History of Boxford, Essex County, MA by Sidnewy Perley

17. Images of America, Boxford, MA by Clark & Stickney

18. Men of Worth of Salisbury Birth by Malcolm Day Rudd

From Marion Vodonick:

19. Rhode Island, Washington County Births 1760-1860, Death & Marriage records A-I

20. Rhode Island, Washington County Births & Marriages from Gravestone Inscriptions 1688-1850 (North Kingstown, South Kingstown, Exeter, Westerly, Charlestown, Richmond, Hopkinton)

21. Rhode Island, Washington County Births 1770-1850 (North Kingstown, South Kingstown, Exeter,Westerly, Charlestown, Richmond, Hopkinton.

From Gary R. Brown:

22. 1870 Census - Logan County, OH

23. Cemetery Records: Jefferson Township, Logan County, OH; Harrison, Union & Washington Townships; Lake Township; Bloomfield, Stokes, Richland Township; Bokescreek & Rushcreek Townships; Perry & Zane Townships; McArthurs Township; Miami & Pleasant Townships; Liberty & Monroe Townships.

24. Index to the G.A.R. Cemetery - Miami, Ottawa County, Oklahoma

25. Supplement to the G.A.R. Cemetery Index. Miami Ottawa County, OK

From Hall Simons:

26. FTM Ohio Vital Records 1 & 2

27. NY Marriage Index 1 & 2

28. Ohio Marriage Index

29. Social Security Death Index 1937-1996


The following were additional donatations by the Robison Family in memory of Sharon Robison:

30. Medical Record Management

31. Your Family Tree Connection

32. Genetic Prophecy

33. Recording Your Family History

34. Many Years of the Heritage Quest Magazine

35. Many Years of Genealogical Journal From Utah Genealogical Association

36. Genealogy Resources Books from Arkansas Publishers

37. Handy Tips to your Genealogical Research in Germany

39. Handy Tips to your Genealogical Research in England & Wales

40. Hfandy Tips to your Genealogical Research in Southern Records

41. Genealogy Help, Hints & Hope by John W. Heisey

42. 8,000 Little-used Sources by Arlene H. Eakle

43. Shaking Your Family Tree Workbook

44. Gathering the Generations -- A Guide to Family Reunions

45. Celebrating the Family; Steps to Planning a Family Reunion

46. Early Emigrant Trails in the United States East of the Mississippi River

47. Managing a Genealogical Project by William Dollarhide

48. Nancy's Easy Filing System by Nancy Ellen Carlberg



For help with research in the Czech or Slovac Republic: or phone 866-GO2PATH in Seattle, WA

For information on the Lost Colony of VA:

For history of the Melungeons of southern VA, W VA, eastern KY, NC, TN & eastern KY:

For a links to very good sites to find out-of-print books: or

For books on the Civil War:



For those of you who are researching in New York state, as of Feb. 15, 2000 the New York State Archive and Records Administration no longer handles mail-in requests for vital records. In view of this, I would like to recommend an experienced researcher, Nancy Curran, who was formerly a newspaper columnist in my hometown of Niskayuna, NY. Nancy has taken the required official training to qualify for the referral list of the NY State Library & Archives . To view her resume, go to: or you can e-mail her at

Do other members have researchers they would like to recommend? We all would love to know.


Have you ever wondered what could have caused an ancestor's death at an early age or have you been puzzled by a cluster of deaths in a family at one time? Perhaps the following list of epidemics for different areas of the country might give you some clues. You may want to save this list because I was unable to find my original source reference again.This was reprinted from The Searcher, Vol. 38 No.2, Mar/Apr 2001

1657 Boston Measles

1687 Boston Measles

1690 New York Yellow Fever

1713 Boston Measles

1729 Boston Measles

1732-33 Worldwide Influenza

1738 South Carolina Smallpox

1739-40 Boston Measles

1747 Connecticut, NY, PA, SC Measles

1759 Colonized N. America Measles

1761 N. America /West Indies Influenza

1772 N. America Measles

1775 N. America Unknown epidemic

1775-76 Worldwide Influenza

1783 Delaware "Extremely fatal" bilious disorder

1788 Philadelphia, NY Measles

1793 Virginia Influenza

1793 Philadelphia Yellow Fever

1793 PA (Harrisburg/Middletown)"Many unexplained deaths"

1794 Philadelphia Yellow Fever

1796-97 Philadelphia Yellow Fever

1803 New York Yellow Fever

1820-23 Starts on the Schuylkill River, PA and spreads nationwide "Fever"

1831-32 Nationwide Asiatic cholera (brought by English immigrants)

1832 New York, other cities Cholera

1833 Columbus, Ohio Cholera

1834 New York City Cholera

1837 Philadelphia Typhus

1841 Nationwide Influenza

1847 New Orleans Yellow Fever

1847-48 Worldwide Influenza

1848-49 North America Cholera

1849 New York Cholera

1850 Nationwide Yellow Fever

1850-51 North America Influenza

1852 Nationwide (8,000 die in New Orleans) Yellow Fever

1855 Nationwide Yellow Fever

1857-59 Worldwide influenza (one of worst flu epidemics)

1860-61 Pennsylvania Smallpox

1865-73 Philadelphia, NY, Boston, New Orleans, Baltimore, Memphis, Washington DC Smallpox, Cholera, Typhus, Scarlet Fever and Yellow Fever

1873-75 N. America Influenza

1878 New Orleans Yellow Fever

1885 Plymouth, PA Typhoid

1886 Jacksonville, FL Yellow Fever

1918 Worldwide Influenza


For those of you who weren't at the last meeting, you really missed a good one. Louis Carlson gave us a lot on the history and researching of markers and tombstones, and in a most entertaining style. In addition to serving as Family Services Counselor at Fairhaven Memorial Park and Mortuary, Reverend Carlson is on the Pastoral staff of Orange County Worship Center. He is currently Pres. of the Orange County Chapter of the Sons of the American Revolution (SAR) and is Chaplain of both the CA State SAR and the Sons of Confederate Veterans. He is a board member of the Santa Ana Historical Preservation Society and speaks frequently to local, state and national organizations dedicated to history, heritage and patriotism. In his handout, he offers "assistance regarding headstone/marker design information and interpretation of old designs, and for assistance in researching old cemetery locations within the United States." You can contact him as follows:

Louis Carlson, Family Service Counselor

Fairhaven Memorial Park and Mortuary

1702 Fairhaven Ave., Santa Ana, CA 92705-6821

(714)633-1442 Fax (714 633-5471

from our v.p.

A lawyer named Strange died, and his friend asked the tombstone maker to inscribe on his tombstone, "Here lies Strange, an honest man, and a lawyer." The inscriber insisted that such an inscription would be confusing, for passersby would tend to think that three men were buried under the stone. However, he suggested an alternative: He would inscribe, "Here lies a man who was both honest and a lawyer." That way, whenever anyone walked by the tombstone and read it, they would be certain to remark; "That's Strange."


If you happened to read the cover story of the ACCENT section of The Orange County Register last Friday May 18th, you must have felt the excitement that I, and any other addicted genealogist or historian, felt reading the article "Unmasking JESSE JAMES" by Peter Larsen. The incredible discovery was an old trunk found in the barn of the Lindsey Farm in Kentucky where Jesse James' parents were married, Judge Lindsey being the uncle and guardian to Jesse's mother. The man who found the trunk purchased it for $35; then he discovered the hidden compartment in the lid which held a collection of family pictures, momentos and two old Bibles, one containing an inscription by Jesse James' wife noting the outlaw's date of death. Suddenly, the old beat up trunk soared in value from $35 to $250,000.

And to think, two of the key figures in this incredible discovery are "local boys", retired Judge James R. Ross of Fullerton, great-grandson of Jesse James, and Eric James of Dana Point, a distant relative of the infamous outlaw and avid researcher. It was Eric James who actually went to KY, viewed the relics and brought back photos for Mr. Ross, the closest living link to Jesse James, to examine. As Mr. Larsen wrote: 'Finally, Ross looked up from the stacks of photographs and spoke. "So that's where the trunk went," he said.' Though already believed to be authentic by a respected Jesse James historian, that comment surely provided the final stamp of approval.

Just where this newly found collection will end up, is still undetermined. If Eric James acquires it, he suggests that either the James Farm or the Kentucky Historical Society may be the recipients. I would personally like to see it. Not only did my grandparents grow up in St. Joseph, MO during the Jesse James era, but there were connections by marriage to a James in my family, as well as in my mother-in-law's family, back in KY. I've always wondered about that. How about you? Do you have some James connections to explore? Regardless, as genealogists, we can all enjoy this "incredible discovery" and be encouraged to continue our own family search. Who knows whereor when that long lost family Bible may be uncovered.

For more information on the James Farm and Museum and other links:

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