Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 10 No 4 ...Editor: Gail Gilbert ...April 2003

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

 P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690

Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year for individuals, $25 for joint membership. SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.

SOCCGS MEETING - April 19, 2003

Our speaker will be Nancy Carlberg whose topic will be "Overcoming Dead Ends." Nancy is a former librarian and the author of over thirty books. After five years of researching genealogy as a hobby, she became a professional genealogist, and has now been working in the field for over twenty-five years. She worked as a researcher for the Alex Haley "Roots" project and "Palmerstown, USA". She specializes in Scandinavian records. Nancy lectures and teaches genealogy throughout Los Angeles and Orange counties. She has traveled extensively doing research for herself and others throughout the United States, Great Britain and Europe. For several years, she led the Orange County Genealogical Society research trip to Salt Lake City, Utah. She is currently a cataloguer at the Los Angeles Family History Center in West Los Angeles, and in 2002 was President of the British Isles Family History Society. We look forward to Nancy's talk and to hearing her tips on finding our lost ancestors.


The following list will give you a taste of what our V.P. & Program Chairman, Mary Jo McQueen, has lined up for the meetings in 2003. We will be having some outstanding speakers with a variety of interesting topics which you won't want to miss. So, plan ahead to be there at the following meetings:

May - Tom Underhill: "How To Save An Hour A Day On Your Computer"

June - Doug Mason: "How I Found My Two Grandpa's"

July - Barbara Renick: "Internet Research"

August - Nancy Huebotter: "Writing Your Autobiography"

September - Andrew Pomeroy: "Mastering Search Engines, Internet Research Skills You Need"

October - Possible Seminar


This month's Safari will be to the Huntington Beach library on April 23, leaving the parking lot of the Mission Viejo FHC at 9:30. Call Janet or Mary Jo with any questions.


NOTE: If your mailing label is highlighted, we have not received your membership dues yet.


24-26 April 2003 Utah Genealogical Association Annual Conference, "Family History: the Drama and the Dreams" at the Salt Palace Convention Center, Salt Lake City, Utah. For more information:

3 May 2003 Orange Family History Fair, Orange Stake Center, 674 S. Yorba, Orange, CA. Free admission. For more information contact Beth McCarty at or call her at (714) 997-7710.


Joan Rambo, our speaker at the March SOCCGS meeting, forwarded this message to the group in regard to her handout a few days after her excellent presentation:

"I realized I did not cover the information on page one regarding the site Barrel of Genealogy Links at It is a great site, but when I checked to see how many sites it now contains, I saw that Link #13 should now read Link #11.

It pertains to American Life Histories, done by WPA. Not every state is covered, but they are so interesting. I did a search for Standifer in TX and although I didn't find my direct line, I found someone talking about buying land in McLennan Co, TX from Price Standifer -- he was the brother to my Elizabeth Standefer Rice. So, the things this story covered about what it was like in the early days in that area for their family, gave me an idea of what it was like for my family, too.

Many of the stories for New Mexico mentioned Billy the Kid, seems like almost everyone knew him, or had contact with him. LOL That Barrel of Genealogy Links site now has 286 links to other good genealogy sites, plus an additional 124 sites just for the Civil War. By the way #193 is a link to SOCCGS. "



"The old genealogy scam is back, Behind the password protection are links to the free genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. In order to get the '5-day free trial' you have to surrender a credit card or bank account number. You have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this surprise you? One person who recently fell for the come-on had his/her account dinged not once, but twice. It is time to remind folks on your state and county mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a couple of years since we have mentioned this. Permission is granted to pass this on." From the Coordinator for the Maryland USGenWeb project.


The Wisconsin Historical Society has a new on-line genealogy tool, a Wisconsin Name Index found at: This database was created by professional librarians at the State Historical Society from 150 county and local histories, professional directories and biographical encyclopedias. It contains more than 100,000 obituaries, personal sketches and short biographies of Wisconsin people, including more than 60 portraits and illustrations. It can be searched in a number of ways by last name, first name, maiden name, time-frame etc., and photocopies can be ordered.


Here is something new to try, although I had some trouble with downloading it myself. A new addition to Family History Radio is "Genealogy News and Technology with Dick Eastman."



Betty Schmidt informs us that there is progress in forming the new chapter of the Colonial Dames of the Seventeenth Century. The group has begun to meet at the Mission Viejo Library and invites those who qualify, with ancestors who arrived here prior to 1701, to come to their next meeting, April 26 at 10:30 a.m. There will be four meetings per year, two in the fall and two in the spring. If you would like more information you can contact the President, Sandy, at or the Vice-president, Teresa, at Also, plan to attend the meeting on April 26th.



A Census Bureau special report, titled Demographic Trends in the 20th Century, has been released that analyzes data gathered in the eleven censuses taken between the years 1900 and 2000. The subjects covered are from the Census 2000 short-form questionnaire and cover trends in population, housing and household data for the nation, regions and states. This can provide insight into the changes in the character of our country over the past 100 years.

The report, which is 240 pages, includes graphs, maps and tables, and may be purchased from the Government Printing Office through the Census Bureau's Customer Service Center at (301) 763-4100. It may also be accessed for free at:

We thank Questing Heirs Genealogical Society for providing this information which appeared in their Newsletter, Vol. 36, No. 3, March 2003.



Robert & Fran Casey, researching CASEY - Ireland; STECKER - Germany; BAKER - England;

Steusen - Denmark; Hochbaum - Germany; Whipple - England.

What Will Become of My Genealogy Research IF???

by Nancy Giles

Reprinted with permission of author from WAGS Newsletter Vol. 22 No. 5 Oct. 2002

I received this e-mail just a couple of days ago and once again it brought home the need for all researchers to leave behind detailed instructions on what should be done with our research in the event of our passing on. "My Mom passed away recently and she has a huge list related to her pursuit of the families ancestral family tree. I'm not sure what to do about the e-mail (1523) she has received - yours, the most recent. Her will directed other family members to pursue the Family Tree. I would hate for them to lose this connection. How should I proceed? Thanks for any help you may provide."

Now this mother did leave instructions in her will that she wanted other family members to pursue the family tree, but this e-mail really got me to thinking about this subject. I wrote him back that I was glad she had left instructions for someone to continue with the research, but that unless the e-mails pertained to immediate family research or helpful information in the area of her research, he could feel comfortable in deleting the e-mails. I also suggested that he write an e-mail to each of the lists telling them they wanted to unsubscribe her and that the list manager would send the instructions how to do this. Not knowing how much computer knowledge the person writing this e-mail to me has, I did not think I could send him the instructions and feel comfortable that he would know how to follow them.

I belong to several mailing lists on the internet myself, and I have made a file on my e-mail program in which I keep the instructions from each one as to how to unsubscribe. With this information stored on file, I feel that anyone capable of going online and reading my e-mails could find the necessary information to unsubscribe me if they had to.

I also suggested to this person that he might be sure a copy of the information his mother had completed on their family history be sent to the libraries in the immediate areas of her research. At least it would be available to others researching the same line at a later date and show some appreciation for the hard work it entailed.

Have you thought about the hours of research you have spent working on your family history? Perhaps if you are just beginning, it doesn't seem like a large amount of time and work has gone into your research, but after you have spent many years at it, you will be very disappointed if something happens to you and no one in your family knows what you would like to have done with your work. Make sure that some member of the family preferably someone who you think will continue with your work and have enough interest to preserve it, knows where your research is. Keep your research sources up to date so that if another person had to pick up your work, they would know exactly what you have done and where the material came from. As your work progresses, send a copy to the library, historical and genealogical societies in your research area yourself, then you will know that they at least have that much of it. I must add that should they not be prepared to accept your information, I am sure they would direct you to the proper repository for it.

I have put my research in a computer program that will generate book like pages and have sent many copies to members of our family, with updates periodically to keep it current. By doing this I have made sure that someone has my work to share with other members of the family after I have passed on and it has actually generated more help from the family members in offering information to inclue in it.

A letter or e-mail such as this one is upsetting to me because I can put myself in both places, as the researcher who has left behind this wonderful legacy and the person receiving it. I am grateful that I can appreciate it and the work that went into it, because I am certain that some of the family members would not. I always consider this type of communication as a reminder that I must not get too caught up in the work that I don't make the necessary arrangements for it to be useful after I am no longer able to, or not around to finish it. For that matter - is family research ever really finished!


Donated by Herb Abrams - National Archives pamphlets

Compiled Service Records of Soldiers Who Served in the American Army during the Revolutionary War

Compiled Service Records of American Naval Personnel & Members of the Departments of the Quartermaster General & the Commissary General of Military Stores Who Served During the Revolutionary War

General Index to Compiled Military Service Records of Revolutionary Soldiers

Index to Compiled Service Records of American Naval Personnel Who Served During the Revolutionary War

Revolutionary War Pension & Bounty-Land-Warrant Application Files

Donated by Beverly Portlock

Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey: Vol. 77, #1, 2, 3

What Can't Brave Americans Endure? by Joseph Lee Boyle (The New Jersey Infantry at the Valley Forge Encampment)

Miller & Pursel Families: Compiled by Vida Miller Pursel

Donated by Laura Mitchell

Routes to Our Roots: by Linda Jones

Donated by Sandi Lamb

An Oral History Primer

PAF Users Guide (4.0)

Growing Your Own Family Tree

A New Millennium of Family History

Taking Family History Into The New Millennium

Donor unknown

Atlas of Irish History: by Sean Duffy

How to Trace Your Irish Roots: Aonghusa



by Randy Black, reprinted from SOCCGS Newsletter, April 1997

The people are what it's all about so I don't worry about sources. If I find an ancestor with the last name of Smith, I just go ahead and link them to Captain John Smith and his wife Pocahontas. Last name of Carson? I have them descend from Kit Carson, the famous pioneer. If their last name is King, I figure I can go ahead and show descent from King Richard the Lionhearted because he was a king that I like.

After you do it for awhile, it gets easier and easier to link your family to really interesting people. Sure, you have to be a little more creative than those fuddy-duddy, goody-goody source-quoting weirdos. Sometimes I have to invent individuals to connect things up right, but I figure they "could" have existed, right? And this way my genealogy is really interesting, my family loves it, and it saves me time! My motto: what the heck, who's going to check?

(Originally found on news:soc.genealogy.computing. Reprinted in 1997 with the permission of the author)


For World War II Records:

NARA has added a WWII Army and Army Air Force Casualty List and a WWII Navy, Marine and Coast Guard Casualty List to its Archival Research Catalog (ARC). You can search for an individual by state, county and alphabetically by surname and his serial number, rank and type of casualty will be given. These lists can be viewed along with the Guion-Miller Roll Index and the Index to the Dawes Rolls at:

For Federal Personnel Records:

The National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO houses the personnel and medical folders for civilian employees and military personnel for the past hundred years. To find information for making a written request for a deceased individual, go to the following websites.



For Civil War, Rev. War, War of 1812, & Spanish American War Records:

Records for individuals who served in these wars are housed at the National Archives in the form of Pension Application files and Compiled Military Service Records (CMSR). If you do not want to do the search yourself, take a look at the website for Civil War Records Consultants at They will do the search for you and provide copies from the actual files in Washington D.C.. For example, Pension Records (Union Soldiers only): $45/Name plus $5 postage and handling. CMSR: $30/Name plus $5 postage and handling. Payment is due on completion of research and there is no charge if nothing is found. The best part is that the turn-around time is 10 days or less.

For American Civil War information of all kinds see:

For researching military records which may have been destroyed:

Contact the Veterans Administration Regional Office nearest to you at their toll free 800 number and ask to speak to the Freedom of Information Officer (FOIA) who can help you obtain copies of a deceased relative's file. These records are free and may contain something useful, if only identifying the branch of service, and dates of entry or discharge.

War related resource for computerized data on the Holocaust (from the CSGA Newsletter, Vol 21, No. 1, January 2003):

"The Brest Ghetto Passport Archive consists of documents prepared at the order of the Nazi authorities after the capture of Brest in the summer of 1941. All Jews of 14 years of age and above living in the Brest Ghetto were required to obtain and sign for identity papers, which included their names, ages, and the names and dates of birth of their parents. A photo of each person was taken and all those receiving these internal passports were required to sign for them. The original archive consists of documents written in Polish, for as a result of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (1918) the western portion of Belarus (including Brest itself) became part of Poland which had defeated a Bolshevik incursion during the Civil War that followed World War I. Most of the population of Brest, including Jews, spoke Polish. Search for surnames using Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex or for surnames starting with a particular spelling."


A roster of all the current courses is maintained at our library. Be sure to check at the desk for details.

1. Continuous classes are offered at the Mission Viejo Family History Center at 27976 Marguerite Parkway. For a current schedule or to register call (949) 364-2742.

2. For information on classes held at the Orange FHC, 674 S. Yorba St., Orange, call Beth McCarty at (714) 998-3408.

3. Classes for beginners and intermediates in Computer-assisted Genealogy are offered each month by the Orange County CA Genealogy Society in the General Meeting Room of the Huntington Beach Central Library, 7111 Talbert Ave., Huntington Beach, CA for a fee of $4 for non-members, payable at the door. See for schedule.

4. The schedule for NARA workshops is available by calling (949) 360-2641.

5. The British Isles Family History Society (BIFHS) holds classes monthly at the LA FHC of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd., W. LA. Classes and parking are free. For information contact Dorothy Losee at (310) 838-6085,

6. Classes are offered monthly by the LA Family History Center, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd. Los Angeles which offer a wide variety of topics. To see the schedule for the current month, go to their website at or call (310) 474-9990.

7. Brigham Young University's Department of Independent Studies offers two free online genealogy courses, Finding Your Ancestors and Providing Temple Ordinances for Your Ancestors. See for details.

8. Community College genealogy courses can be found listed at the website: Many of these are also free online.

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