Saddleback Valley Trails

Saddleback Valley Trails

Vol 8 No 1 ...Editor: Gail Gilbert ...January 2001

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

 P. O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA. 92690

Monthly meetings are held on the third Saturday of each month from 10:00 a.m. to Noon at the Mission Viejo Family History Center Institute Building, 27978 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo, between Medical Center Drive and Hillcrest Drive. Membership is open to anyone wishing to join. Yearly membership fees are $20 per calendar year for individuals, $25 for joint membership. SOCCGS is not affiliated with the LDS Family History Center.


THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU Judy Deeter for two years of service and excellent leadership for our society. We all appreciate so much all you have done as our president. Now it is time to welcome in the new team. We have asked our new president to introduce herself and she will be addressing you (hopefully) on a monthly basis in the following "President's Column."


Thank you for the opportunity to serve as your president. Since most of you don't know me very well, let me tell you a little about myself. I have one husband (Robert), two grown children, five grandchildren, one dog and one cat. We have lived in Mission Viejo since 1978. My husband is a retired one school administrator, and I was in the retail business as a buyer and manager. I have been retired for a year.

My aunt planted the genealogy seed in me when I was ten years old. Then, about three years ago, a long lost cousin contacted me inquiring about a picture of his mother. While searching for that picture, I became a "genie-holic." I also try to find time to quilt and scrapbook. Besides SOCCGS, I belong to the Mission Viejo Chapter of the DAR and Flying Geese Quilt Guild. Every Tuesday from 5 to 7 you can find me tending the genealogy desk at the library.

Some of my surnames are: Emrich, Minor, Morrison, Greeley, Chapman, Sheldon, Chute, Jewett, Smith, Knowlton, Ross, Rairden and Woodbury. My areas of research include Canada, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, Minnesota and Iowa. Are any of you my cousins?

I hope to meet you all at the January meeting. We will be trying some new and different things during our meetings this year. Suggestions are welcome. Bye now.

Mary Jo McQueen


20 January 2001 Topic to be German Research.

17 February 2001 Topic to be Scottish Research.

17 March 2001 Joan Rambo will speak on using non-genealogical sources for your research.

21 April 2001 Global History will be the topic of Kathleen Trevena.

19 May 2001 Louis Carlson will talk to us about "Everything You Wanted to Know About Headstones and Were Afraid to Ask: "A Humorous Look at Headstones Through the Ages,Their Maintenance and their Symbolism."

16 June 2001 Gary Shumway will speak on:"Using Oral History to Document Your Genealogy."

21 July 2001 Norma Keating will cover Danish Research for us.


25-27 January 2001 An "Irish Crash Course" in genealogy will be held at the Marriott Hotel, Torrance. Speakers will be noted researcher and co-founder of British Isles Family History Society, Nancy Bier, and professional genealogist, author and lecturer, Nancy Carlberg. Cost will be $98, including syllabus or $50 for Saturday only. An alternative program will also be offered on

Saturday for those who are unable to attend the first two days. For more information contact Nancy Carlberg (714) 772-2849 or Nancy Bier (310) 375-6149, e-mail

8 February 2001 An "English & Welsh Crash Course" will be held at the Marriot Hotel, Torrance, CA. For information call Nancy Carlsberg at (714) 772-2849 or email Nancy Bier at

9-11 February 2001 The Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International will hold its 2nd Winter Symposium at the Red Lion Inn/Holiday Inn South Day in San Diego. Among the ten featured speakers on Saturday will be our own Tom Hruska who will speak on the Uses of Aerial and Cadastral Mapping for Genealogy. The three day event includes tours of San Diego, an Ethnic Dinner with entertainment by the Devin Slovak Folk Dance Ensemble and a Private Reception & Open House at the House of the Czech and Slovak Republics. For more details on schedules, costs and registration, contact John Kracha at (619) 426-8295, or

24 February 2001 The Whittier Area Genealogical Society will present their Annual WAGS Seminar with nationally known speaker and author, Richard S. Wilson on Making Connections: Technology and Genealogy . The seminar will be held at the new meeting location for WAGS at the Masonic Lodge at 7604 Greenleaf Avenue in Whittier. "Richard W. Wilson, author of computerbooks for genealogists and articles for national genealogy magazines, local and national lecturer, owner of Compuology (, and webmaster for the California USGenWeb, brings more than 16 years of computer experience to this Seminar." His lectures include Comparing Genealogical Software Programs, Using Word Processors and Databases for Genealogy, Favorite Internet Sites for Genealogists, and Technology Tools You Can't Live Without: Scanners, Digital Cameras, and More. Advance registration is $27 for non-members and must be made by February 17. Lunch can be be reserved for an additional $6. For more information, contact Miriam Benell, Seminar Director, at (562) 695-5431 or Ray Ristic, President, at, or WAGS web page at

24-25 March 2001 The Southern California Genealogical Society and Family Research Library will present JAMBOREE 2001, Saturday 8:30 am - 6 pm & Sunday 8:30 am - 4 pm, at the Exhibition Bldg., Pasadena Convention Center, 300 E. Green St., Pasadena. For more information call (818) 843-7247, email or see


2-3 February 2001 The GENTECH 2001 Conference, "Union and Reunion," will be held in Dallas, TX. Topics to be: Online Research, Computers, Imaging, Applications, Education, Black History, Expo, and Everything Else. For more information visit the web site at


For schedule of current classes being held at the LA Family History Center, 10741 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles, call (310) 474-9990 or visit their website at

For information on classes held at the Orange FHC, 674 S. Yorba St., Orange, call Beth McCarty at (714) 998-3408. The remaining mini class schedule is as follows:

Classes for beginners and intermediates in Computer-assisted Genealogy are offered each month by the Orange County CA Genealogy Society in the General Meeting Room of the Huntington Beach Central Library, 7111 Talbert Ave., Huntington Beach, CA for a fee of $4 for non-members, payable at the door. See for schedule.

For classes at the Mission Viejo Family History Center, 27976 Marguerite Parkway, Mission Viejo: or phone (949) 364-2742. Classes are FREE, simply call to reserve a seat.

MVFHC Winter Class Schedule, Tuesday evenings, February 6 - March 13, from 7-9 pm.


Concepts & Processes

Family Census Records

Federal Census Records - National Archive specialist

Record Sources - How to look and where, City, County, State, Federal, Military, Social Security Death, Census, Church, Immigration

& Emigration, Cemeteries


PC Programs You Use - GEDCOM files

Family History Center - Family Search Databases, Windows Databases

Internet - Email, Newspgroups, Newsletters, Listservers, Search Engines, On-line Databases (Location, Surname, Military, Ethnic), On-line Map Searches, Posting your own data



A schedule for Safari trips for the year will be made up shortly, although you can still plan on a trip being held every 4th Wed. of the month. For January, please contact Janet Franks at (949) 496-8428


In researching individual names in your family history, knowing the traditional English/European naming pattern is helpful. As we presented in an earlier newsletter, the following usually holds true:

1st son - named after father's father 1st daughter - named after mother's mother

2nd son " " mother's father 2nd daughter " " father's mother

3rd son " " father 3rd daughter " " mother

4th son " " father's eldest bros. 4th daughter " " mother's eldest sis

Now, a couple genealogists have some variations and additional advice for researchers working with German or Dutch names which we will pass on to you. In the December issue of the NSDCGS newsletter (Vol. XXX, No. 11), editor Tom Gordinier wrote, "..the Dutch in America, as well as in Holland, used a formal system of selecting the first names of their sons and daughters. . . This practice lasted into the twentieth century. . . as follows:"

1st son - named for paternal grandfather.

2nd son - named for maternal grandfather.

3rd son named for his father's paternal grandfather

4th son named for his mother's paternal grandfather

5th son named for his father's maternal grandfather.

6th son named for his mother's maternal grandfather.

Daughters followed the same pattern except that "maternal grandmothers were primary over the paternal grandmothers. Middle names were that of the father with an extension indicating son or daughter."

Middle names are of particular importance when working with German names. As Nancy Giles points out in her article in the January WAGS Newsletter (Vol. 20, No. 8), "If your German great grandfather was Gustave or Johann, and he and your great grandmother had ten children, remember that there will probably be ten first sons of these children named Gustave or Johann." She goes on to say that usually the middle name was the distinguishing tag among the children and the one the child was most likely to go by. "Gustave Heinrich more than likely was called Heinrich or Henry." She points out also that often the names are reversed in records, so you need to look them both up.

To further complicate things, in my own personal experience, I have found that the Germans were prone to use more than one middle name. For example, my great grandfather's name was John Jacob Chris Nevermann. Although I have found his sisters in baptismal records, I have yet to identify him with any certainty with the names in this exact order, even knowing his exact place and date of birth. One further point is the importance of nicknames. In my case, the name Chris was short for Christian instead of Christopher as I had presumed. Knowing the standard nicknames for the more formal names can be helpful in identifying the individual in records. You might want to refer back to our newsletter for November 1999 (Vol. 6, No. 11) for a list of some more common nicknames.



Last month we presented some suggestions for breaking the barrier of the proverbial brick wall. Here are some more tips from another genealogist from the RootsWeb Review.


by Liz Lieber

Every genealogist, at one time or another, has encountered a brick wall in his or her research. When you hit a brick wall it is a good thing to remember that every research challenge allows you the opportunity to grow as a family historian. Every time you get over a brick wall, you've learned a new research technigque that you may be able to apply later. Here are some tips to help you along.

Written by Liz Lieber, Previously published by,Inc., RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Genealogy News, Vol. 3, No. 30, 26July 2000. RootsWeb: http//

EDITOR'S NOTE: As I have written here before, I use on a regular basis, and it can really help get you past a brick wall barrier. I have put queries on the forum that have put me in touch with other researchers of the same surname whom I may never have known about otherwise, and they in turn have offered new leads and encouragement. Thirty years ago, this was virtually impossible to do, and you felt lucky to find anyone sharing the same research goals. I believe this is the main virtue of the Internet, putting us in touch with other researchers quicker, being able to share our data quicker and alerting us to research already done so we don't waste time reinventing the wheel. Of course, we still need to follow up on the documentation, but sometimes you get lucky and find that out there on the Net too!


For those of you who are interested, the family tree for G.W. Bush, our president-elect, was pretty well established when his father was president. As the saying goes, if you want to get your family tree done for free, become president of the U.S.A.! As it turns out, our 42nd president enters office with very impressive credentials. His ancestors not only can be traced back to the Mayflower, but according to Presidential Roots in Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter of November 12, 2000, "George W. Bush is closely related to every European monarch on and off the throne - from the king of Albania to Sweden's House of Bernadotte - and has kinship with every member of Britain's royal family, the House of Windsor. Bush is the 13th cousin of Britain's queen mother, and his family tree can be documented as far back as the early 15th century."

Eastman's article reports that "the first Bush to settle in America came from Messing, a small village near Colchester, Essex, England in the 17th century. This small village was mentioned in the Domesday Book hundreds of years ago. It hasn't grown much since then; today Missing has a population of 250 souls. Reynold Bush, the son of a yeoman farmer, emigrated to America in 1631, building himself a new life in Cambridge, Massachusetts. "

As to the Mayflower claim, this record can be readily reviewed in "The Mayflower Descents of President George Herbert Walker Bush, First Lady Barbara Pierce Bush, and Vice President James Danforth Quayle", The Mayflower Descendant, 41:1-7. The Bush family connects back to two Mayflower passengers, John Howland and Francis Cooke. The Pierce family connects back to passenger Henry Samson.

A second source for this information is Ancestors of American Presidents, by Gary Boyd Roberts (1995), of the New England Historic Genealogical Society. This 456-page book is available from the publisher, Carl Boyer, 3rd, for $37.50 postpaid, and is the basis for the "U.S. Presidential Ancestor Tables" found online at Another Rootsweb site to explore is This one shows the descent of George W. Bush from the Fairbank family of Sowerby, Halifax, Yorkshire, England. And, I'm sure there will be more allied families laying claim to the presidential roots. They are apparently ones to be proud of!


The California State Genealogical Alliance (CSGA) has a new home page at which you are encouraged to check on for the following:

The 2002 FGS/CGSA Ontario Conference

Legislative actions concerning genealogy, family history & records preservation

Legislative Watch which you may contact with rumors or legislative activity

Long range calendar of state-wide events (see before scheduling your event)

To submit the date and plans for your event

To locate the Regional Director for your society

To talk to CSGA Board members about individual or society concerns

To complete and submit a membership form


Membership Chairman, Iris Graham, reminds us that "It is that time of the year again when we must pay the piper. There will be a red line thru your address label to remind you that your dues are due. Please pay at the next meeting or you can mail in your check. " The renewal form at the end of this newsletter should make it easy for you, and it contains all the information you need to know.

"Only A Genealogist Regards A Step Backwards As Progress"

South Orange County California Genealogical Society

Membership/Renewal Application

( ) New 1 Year ( ) Individual, $20 ( ) Jt. Members, same address $25

( ) Renewal Membership Number(s)______________ _______________

Name (s) ________________________________________________________


City _______________________________State_______Ziip________Phone___________

Make check payable to: SOCCGS (South Orange County Genealogical Society) Check No._____________

Mail with application to: SOCCGS, P.O. Box 4513, Mission Viejo, CA 92690-4513 Date Rec'd______________


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